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1978 09-28-2020 12:06 PM

USDGC Updates
 
Sorry if I missed this in another thread:

I'm interested to see how the Winthrop changes affect the competition this year. The course is going to play much easier in places than 2018 and a tad more difficult in others. Also the ladies tees are interesting...

2 - A little strip of OB on the right side is still such an odd thing and the sticks still prevent discs from flaring through the green, likely saving OB strokes and circle 2 putts more than they prevent putts from going in.

4 - The gap canopy now covers the left side almost eliminating the sidearm hyzer safe wide left, this could make the hole more challenging, but for these guys, probably not that much.

5- That tee placement still seems like a forehand throwers dream and its a pretty easy BH to get in position.

9 - Will play underpar. It is a pretty wide fairway for about 450 ft then an island with a generous landing zone left of the pin. The OB of the tee on the right side is up the hill side so anyone with a serviceable side arm can dump one around the second tree with almost no risk of going OB right. Then it is an easy putter approach to the pin. I don't believe it is S&D so even though you have to land on the island, you get last in bounds on the peninsula so no one is going blow this hole up.

11 - All Hazard, wow, every pro is just going to launch something and at worst come up with a 4 or 5. You are going to see a ton of 3s and 4s With the OB and dropzone gone you might as well give everyone a 4 and skip the hole

12 - Same as 11, no OB drop zone, the hazard OB is almost impossible for a mortal to get in. The entire hole is Hazard so what is the risk, 1 stroke to gain 2? When it was S&D the shot for birdie was kind of risky because you are throwing #4 from 400ft, now if you miss, you are throwing 4 from wherever you landed OB so plenty of opportunities for short circle 2 par saves from the Hazard.

18 - The mando gone and the tree gone make this a blah hole now. A sidearm into the hill and a hyzer with a mid over the cut up tree (used to be mando).

Overall I'm looking at 4-5 shots shaved from the field. The penalty strokes just aren't very severe, they are actually easier than even a normal S&D OB. Seems like winthrop went from S&D, skipping over last in bounds, and went right to, you get all of your distance but just add a stroke. More than any year, this event will come down to who throws #1 in bounds on 17. We aren't going to see the dramatic 4-5 stroke swings in a single hole like we have over the past few years; where a leader gets a 7 and someone gets an eagle, etc.

Cgkdisc 09-28-2020 12:15 PM

I'm thinking the reason for Hazard versus OB is no volunteer flaggers needed on those holes. You don't need to know if your shot is OB or not before leaving your lie.

1978 09-28-2020 12:20 PM

We thought that might be the case, will still drive down scores.

Cgkdisc 09-28-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1978 (Post 3637432)
We thought that might be the case, will still drive down scores.

And that's a good thing: Less stroke padding by reducing additional throws from the same lie, faster play and tighter scoring spread.

Ryan P. 09-28-2020 03:09 PM

4-5 strokes over the entire tourney or each round?

Cgkdisc 09-28-2020 06:11 PM

I wonder if the video team will consider adding artificial crowd noise to the broadcast like other sports are doing.

Casey 1988 09-28-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cgkdisc (Post 3637635)
I wonder if the video team will consider adding artificial crowd noise to the broadcast like other sports are doing.

Might not, the sport of Disc Golf is like Traditional Golf, Silent during the golf part and then Traditional Golf has always used fake clapping, very fake clapping from a 1950's sitcom fake clap.

teemkey 09-28-2020 08:44 PM

We don't need no stinking clapping, we need more cowbell!

Casey 1988 09-28-2020 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by teemkey (Post 3637701)
We don't need no stinking clapping, we need more cowbell!

Actually a Gong style putter pole where sound is only in the best part of an actual basket like a Mach V or Chainstar Pro would be nice for a smaller putter type basket in places that chains for baskets is not a wanted sound.

gogo 09-28-2020 09:35 PM

Maybe the “YOU THE MAN” yell right after the drives.


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