Man, those discs look sweet. Wish I had one, but I would probably never throw it. I gotta say the opto is good enough for me anyway. Mine just got to the point where the low speed stability is beaten out. It just goes straight. No fade. It's smashing! Holds anny, hyzer, no problems. I do have to say that it's less forgiving because of that, haha. But truly the first disc I have owned to give me this experience. Just release it at the angle you want.

Maple Hill ate my seasoned black Grip Line Pure this weekend. GAH!

Wasn't a fan of the opto pure, not as stable at high speeds or stiff as I prefer. Been loving my seasoned zh pure. Great plastic, straight at low speed, turns over slowly and predictably at high speeds, rolls well, very comfortable in hand if you like lower profile discs. I would recommend it to anybody as a straight flying putter or thrower for upshots and drives.

If you want more beef try a 400S PA2. The pink one I've been throwing lately has been a great beefier complement to my neutral Opto Pures. Very similar glide but with a decent fade that's stronger than the domey RGL Pures. They're great in the baseline 300S plastic too.

I felt one and it felt kind of like a slightly taller xd or even kind of like a zone. I heard you can bomb as fast as you like it and it will definitely not turn and has healthy fade, more than a fresh wizard. What is your experience?

This is pretty much it. It's glidey, very resistant to turn, and beefier than a Wizard but in no way too overstable that'll you'll sacrifice distance (like I do with a Zone). Much like with the Pure, there isn't a huge stability difference between plastics either.

300S is hands down the best baseline plastic I've ever felt and is phenomenal in the wet. The yellow color bleeds if that's at all a concern to you. My first round with my 300S was at my local pitch and putt with gravel-riddled fairways (unfortunately my home course). It showed a lot of damage in the rim that round, but it still flies like new after many rounds. It has also stopped showing any more damage, even after throwing several rounds at the previously mentioned course.

The 400S plastic is grippy too for a premium plastic. It's held up the same as, if not better than, my Opto Pure so far. I only have a handful of rounds with it.

a little confused...i rip on the opto (and mine has seen quite a few trees; i play at least 18 a day and it's basically my go-to disc) and there isn't any turn whatsoever.

i don't have a huge arm, but i know i can put it out to about 300 with enough height. it's funny, because i can't throw my fairways or mids too much farther than that, but anyway . . . did i get a freakishly neutral one? it doesn't seem to matter how soft OR hard i throw it; now that it's nicely seasoned it just goes on whatever line it started on.

Yours might be different than mine, or we throw differently somehow. I have to give mine some healthy hyzer or it will turn and not come back on a 250' toss. Mine is a 175 opto identical in feel to my buddy's that i held.

Care to give some extra details about your Pure? Weight sticker? Printed weight? Color? I stockpiled pinks from the first run, along with some other colors. A friend of mine has a couple magentas from the next run, and they fly the same as my pinks.

Mine has been in my bag going on almost a year now, and it's my main thrower (thrown off at least 16 tees) at the gravel course I mentioned above. It's probably seen four rounds a week at least there since I bagged it, on top of the other courses I play. It's lost most of its fade but retained almost all of its HSS. It's a perfect straight line stunner.

I was never a fan of beardless putters til i realized i needed a driving putter. My backhand still needs some work but after field throwing i am seeing why everyone loves this dis so much. I have a max weight orange opto and the thing just goes straight on a flat release and just keeps on moving the glide is amazing to watch, and now when i throw my judges i can hyzer flip and they go just as far. If anything the opto pure has finally gotten my backhand to a point where i can get my putters where they need to go if my forehand driving cant. So stoked to take this on a course