Being a woods golfer, other than for a strong headwind, even the Photon is probably too much.

Get a heavier inertia or a Wrath for headwind shots.

If that's not enough Fission Teslas can handle a descent headwind. Plasma Tesla can handle a strong headwind.

Yeah you guys are probably right haha.. I like my light fission Photons but they aren't much good in the wind...I was eyeing a 160 plasma..

I've got some 174 Inertias and 155's.. I like my weight usually 170 or less. I should maybe get a mid weight one. I had decent luck with them in the wind, surprisingly.

I'm trying to fill an OS slot I hardly need, lost my Resistor in a pond in the wind. I didn't click with it.. Light but stable is what I'm asking I guess.

Thing is if I want some Gyro I need to preorder before the disc vendor comes.. His trailer is too small to bring both Axiom and MVP and it's a crap shoot what he leaves at home. All the Innova and Discraft comes though.

I know I want that 150 plasma Crave! I think I might want a 150 Relay.. I kinda want another fission Volt at 162 ish..

Most of my woods discs and drivers are very similar.. I have a collection of light MVP stuff in the lower speed class.. Thing is I go somewhere open and windy and I get beat up real bad. Since I only play those courses occasionally I need advice.

How about a 165 sparkle proton inertia? If I remember right there's some beef to the sparklies?

I have never thrown a sparkle proton Inertia; the only experience I have with that plastic, is the LE flag Inspire, and it has more fade than my Craves. Where either this extends to the Inertia, I do not know.

As far as open shots, I have never had the wind turn over a Neutron Tesla( At my arm speed, I need the head wind). The only problem I have with a N Tesla is that if one throws with any nose up angle, it will fly a J shape patrern.

No lie, I have had them fade back towards me.

The plasmas does not have that hard of a fade though, even a little nose up.

I never understood this notion that glitter/sparkles/not really metal flakes make a more stable disc. A 165g disc is a 165g disc. The wing profile, flatness/dominess, and weight I can see playing a role, but what probably is less than a gram of glitter in the plastic really doesn't matter. I understand that the idea of "metal flake" connotes more stability since it has metal in it. The reality is that the amount of metal on the outside of glitter is extremely small. Most if it is aluminum and the process of adding to the base (often times plastic) is extremely small. On the other hand, they sure do look pretty flying in the air. Don't get me wrong, I love my sparkle discs, but it's not for its over stability. But then again, if you feel that sparkles give you more stability then perhaps that boosts your confidence and that really is the name of the game.

I think it's more that the plastic cools differently when there's glitter mixed in. So the metal flakes indirectly add stability, not directly.

???? I think the colors/additives, temperature, and humidity have more to do with how the plastic cools than do sparkles. I have MVP/Axiom sparkles that are flat and domed compared to other ones of the same mold.

I've stopped bagging my N Vanish and N Wave, because a Plasma Wave sits perfectly between them in stability and with added glide to boot. If you haven't tried a Plasma Wave, I highly recommend them. It is my understable distance driver, but with clean form and a touch of hyzer I can mash it long and straight. Plaz Wave is an excellent and very versatile straight-to-understable driver.

For some headwind help, I know this isn't gyro but I recommend the Discmania CD3. It's a very thin/controllable rim size, even for a speed 11. But it still goes far. I have to release it on an anny if I want it to truly flex, otherwise if thrown flat it just gets a baby amount of turn and fades controllably. With a touch of hyzer it can handle reasonable headwinds (less than 15 mph). If you're playing woods golf, you probably don't need much more headwind help than that anyway.

For reference, I throw my CD3 and Waves around 310'-330' and max out Ballistas at 330'-370'.

Bump. Anyone know if MVP still sells the Rainfly for standard Voyager bags?

Fair enough. I have't thrown any gyro sparkle, so I can't talk to how they specifically mold up. But I have bagged metal flake discs in both Innova and Trilogy molds, and there's a noticable difference compared to stock Champion/Lucid/Opto plastic. The Trilogy ones are close enough that it might just be placebo effect, but Innova metal flake is an obvious step up in stability.