Soft zero is comparible to putter r-pro plastic, but i think it's more comparible to Gateway RFF plastic. I have a bunch in different color and wear stage and none droop when you hold them even in warm temps.

Soft Zero is very very durable as well. It doesn't damage as easily as hard zero. If the soft zero ever warps for any reason, i just leave it upside down on a flat surface in my car in the sunlight (on a book or clipboard) and it's back to original shape.

Putting -- not good for push putting, it will warp and wobble from the force your palm exerts on it. Spin putting or a spin/push hybrid is great.

Approaching -- this is where the plastic shines. I approach and long putt with my Soft Zero almost exclusively (unless i'm using a zone). There is very little chance of a roll away because the disc just sits and stops.

Nice appraisal.
 

Thanks for the great feedback. I'm a spin/push hybrid (at least I would say I am). I might have to try these. I do love approaching with my R-Pro Rhynos for the same reason.

Jrawk's approach technique sounds exactly like how I use Swans. Swans are just a little thinner, and less HSS. Pretty much same good plastic for settling down by a basket.

oh, man. i don't even know what to do anymore.

i've got a putter dilemma again because i have problems with wizards releasing properly on drives. i snagged an opto, a ZH and a ZS pure along with several other putters and it was bliss again. i'd forgotten how wonderfully straight the opto pure is, and how neutral/understable the ZH is. really a 1-2 knockout, laser shots for drives and approaches.

i tried putting with them; that was hilarious. i couldn't hit jack. i may just drive/approach with pures and putt with wizards, but there are so many contenders - i bought a crapton of putters today. *sigh* i was doing so well resisting, too . . .

I liked the TM2's for putting for a while, but decided it was a better driving putter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOjP0...ature=youtu.be

No law against bagging two molds. :thmbup:

haha, yeah but then i'd like to have something slightly OS as well. there goes the neighborhood. i've got a few options i am considering...

as far as the pure goes though, i certainly remember why i bagged them. both plastics are truly remarkable IMO. the opto never ceases to amaze me with how straight and far it goes; the zero hard always looks great on those long turnover lines and hyzerflips, super straight approaches.

a think a pure/envy driving combo would be great, but i have a lot of discs to try. i noticed right away while attempting to putt with the pure that it is MERCILESS to hyzer putters. it spits through so easily and i had a hard time ranging putts high/low as well. just sorta glides and then drops suddenly. so no matter what, if i use the pure again i am looking at 4 molds and 6 putters: zone, slightly OS, opto, zero hard, zero soft, putting putter.

that's just a lot of putters to justify, which is why the PA2 and mercy and warlock are all in contention.

i don't think i can argue the fact that i drive the best with the opto pure though. we will see; i have some more fieldwork to do tomorrow.

Pures need that little bit of hyzer release when putting or they'll go squirrelly at low speeds.

Inside the circle you should be able to putt with almost any disc. Stick with the Pure and give it more time. Maybe a month or two. Patience grasshopper. If it still doesn't click then bag two putters. Simple.

I've finally solidified my putter lineup this winter after spending time with my new mediums on the practice basket.
Driving: Opto Pure and Champ Rhyno
Approach: Medium Pure
Putting: Soft and sometimes Medium Pure
I'll be carrying five putters, four of them Pures. One Opto, two Mediums, and one Soft. Come on spring.