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RoDeO 10-05-2020 01:50 PM

Go and wstch that video Sidewinder posted. In the video he advocates a complete lateral shift with no rotation. Even at release he is advocating you bring your rear leg behind your front leg which would actually cause opposite rotation. Then after release, somehow your momentum causes you to rotate back the other way? That's just bad advice. It's completely opposite of what McBeth and Sexton were teaching.

SaROCaM 10-05-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3640092)
Go and wstch that video Sidewinder posted. In the video he advocates a complete lateral shift with no rotation. Even at release he is advocating you bring your rear leg behind your front leg which would actually cause opposite rotation. Then after release, somehow your momentum causes you to rotate back the other way? That's just bad advice. It's completely opposite of what McBeth and Sexton were teaching.

It is a drill to exaggerate the motion in order to correct a common issue. He's not saying that's exactly how to throw, it is just to get a feel for the correction to make for that particular issue.

Same with the McBeth and Sexton video you posted. What they are saying is 1) don't swing too early and 2) don't open up the hips too early. They are using the exaggerated hip motion to drive the point home about building from the ground up.

When you more fully understand what is going on with the throw you'll see what they are talking about. Until then it can be confusing and appear like they are conflicting. They aren't. They are speaking to different things.

RoDeO 10-05-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SaROCaM (Post 3640097)
It is a drill to exaggerate the motion in order to correct a common issue. He's not saying that's exactly how to throw, it is just to get a feel for the correction to make for that particular issue.

Same with the McBeth and Sexton video you posted. What they are saying is 1) don't swing too early and 2) don't open up the hips too early. They are using the exaggerated hip motion to drive the point home about building from the ground up.

When you more fully understand what is going on with the throw you'll see what they are talking about. Until then it can be confusing and appear like they are conflicting. They aren't. They are speaking to different things.

They are teaching opposite motions. Mcbeth and Sexton actually nail it very well. That other video is just bad advice.

seedlings 10-05-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3640092)
Go and wstch that video Sidewinder posted. In the video he advocates a complete lateral shift with no rotation. Even at release he is advocating you bring your rear leg behind your front leg which would actually cause opposite rotation. Then after release, somehow your momentum causes you to rotate back the other way? That's just bad advice. It's completely opposite of what McBeth and Sexton were teaching.

Similar advice to Paul and Nate saying not to drag your left foot, while they seem to drag their left foot. Thereís a sense where you do and a sense where you donít. In the drag the foot, the left foot stops on the ground, or slightly off the ground at the brace, and then drags through. Descriptions of intangible athletic movements.

sidewinder22 10-05-2020 02:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHy227OYGP0&t=17m56s

seedlings 10-05-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder22 (Post 3640104)

That is such a helpful video. Iíve watched it a dozen times.

dreadlock86 10-05-2020 02:41 PM

pretty sure this thread has already fulfilled all the requirements for a typical RoDeO thread.

now that people who know what they are talking about have corrected the record, can this thread die please?

RoDeO 10-05-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder22 (Post 3640104)

More bad advice. According to that video you yourself have horrible mechanics.
https://youtu.be/ok26o-xSVRA
(BTW I actually think you have pretty good mechanics, so don't listen to them guys)

sidewinder22 10-05-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RoDeO (Post 3640142)
More bad advice. According to that video you yourself have horrible mechanics.
https://youtu.be/ok26o-xSVRA
(BTW I actually think you have pretty good mechanics, so don't listen to them guys)

It's in there like Prego.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2020/KKHX2u.gif

RoDeO 10-05-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder22 (Post 3640212)

Yep, they are opening their hips as they pull the disc into their power pocket. I think its a case again of a pro giving information about how they think a person should throw but yet the best don't really throw that way.

BTW, you dont throw like either of those guys. Nothing wrong with that, just saying...


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