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KMaC 11-07-2009 04:08 AM

Not a Short Putt, but Not a Long Putt...
 
What do you do when you're at that distance where you know your push-putt will fall 10' short, but you know your spin-putt will burn way past the basket?

Apothecary 11-07-2009 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KMaC (Post 185152)
What do you do when you're at that distance where you know your push-putt will fall 10' short, but you know your spin-putt will burn way past the basket?

falling putt.

thenamesben 11-07-2009 08:12 AM

Hyzer putt or a jump putt.

solomon.trenton 11-07-2009 08:32 AM

lay-up? or grow a sack and aim better;)

garublador 11-07-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KMaC (Post 185152)
What do you do when you're at that distance where you know your push-putt will fall 10' short, but you know your spin-putt will burn way past the basket?

Work on getting those two to overlap so that isn't an issue. ;)

It sounds like you need to figure out how to get more power on your push putt. Make sure you're releasing flat (not nose down) and remember you get your power from your weight shift.

I'm not a spin putt expert, but there may be ways to improve your "touch" with your spin putt to keep from blowing by so bad.

KMaC 11-07-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by garublador (Post 185194)
Work on getting those two to overlap so that isn't an issue. ;)

It sounds like you need to figure out how to get more power on your push putt. Make sure you're releasing flat (not nose down) and remember you get your power from your weight shift.

I'm not a spin putt expert, but there may be ways to improve your "touch" with your spin putt to keep from blowing by so bad.

Getting more power behind my push-putt is exactly what I need to do.

How exactly does one go about doing that?

whitechocolate 11-07-2009 12:58 PM

I almost always spin putts, even from ten feet. The only way I pitch putt if I have to go around/over something. and even then, I'll take a spin hyzer or anhyzer if it's an option. For me most of the time, pitch putting is just giving it a chance but not really going for it. It's like throwing at the basket while laying up. I've been doing it for a while now, and even if I happen to miss the basket my comeback shot will generally go in. It's increased my confidence circle to about 40 feet, and I go for almost everything from 130 now.

I am not saying my way isn't right or wrong, it's just my way. My suggestion for pitch putting further, is to time you rocking and release better. It's all about weight transfer the further you get out.

Ryan P. 11-07-2009 01:24 PM

What I do is handcuff myself so my spin putt still doesn't have a ton of power. Listen to Garublador though. What distances are you changing over from a push to a spin at?

kpc2004 11-07-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Apothecary (Post 185155)
falling putt.

i think i agree with this (im not keen on all sorts of terminology(sp?)) and what grabulator said as well....i kinda combo the two and toss it a little higher and to the right and let it fall naturally and it wont fly past the basket and if you miss the putt it usually just stops where it lands, somewhere very close to the basket instead of 10+ feet away, so you dont have to putt twice...USUALLY lol

Technohic 11-07-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kpc2004 (Post 185268)
i think i agree with this (im not keen on all sorts of terminology(sp?)) and what grabulator said as well....i kinda combo the two and toss it a little higher and to the right and let it fall naturally and it wont fly past the basket and if you miss the putt it usually just stops where it lands, somewhere very close to the basket instead of 10+ feet away, so you dont have to putt twice...USUALLY lol

I do this in combination with a hyzer putt, but I really need to work on my push putt distance so its all hyzer putt or push.

Omega SuperSloth 11-07-2009 08:41 PM

kick a puppy

CwAlbino 11-07-2009 09:46 PM

Jump putt

kdos 11-07-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by solomon.trenton (Post 185167)
lay-up? or grow a sack and aim better;)

Enough said!

Midnightbiker 11-07-2009 11:37 PM

Hyzer putts. Something to practice

mashnut 11-07-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega SuperSloth (Post 185410)
kick a puppy

This.

Lewis 11-08-2009 12:28 AM

Speaking from ignorance (I don't really know whether you'd call me a spin putter or a push putter), here's my mostly worthless advice. If you can't get it there with your regular push putt, turn your hips a bit more, reach back a little farther (in your hip pocket rather than your sternum), aim a little higher and to the right, and give your layup a chance to go in. In both golf and disc golf, I prefer to "die it in the hole." I figure throwing it harder than I need to won't do me any good.

andrewkh 11-08-2009 01:54 AM

jump putt that and smash some chains

NothinButChing 11-08-2009 02:28 PM

damn use the same putter for most all putts ... so do my mates. Learn the pizza man/turbo putt n you can start knocking them in for long distance as well as up close

Roc1Time 11-08-2009 10:09 PM

I putt the same no matter what the difference

KMaC 11-09-2009 01:05 PM

I push putt everything from about 35-40' in.

I spin "putt" anything inside of 200'. If there's a line, I'll just run straight at the basket with my putter and adjust power depending on the distance.

I've been having trouble with anything probably 40-60'. I can park longer shots, and (usually) drain shorter ones, but when I'm in the middle I'm never sure which throw to use.

Beable 11-09-2009 03:30 PM

I lay up, but I'm not good at this game.

Suspect 03-29-2019 08:06 AM

For me I just look at the area around the basket. Is it grassy, wet/muddy from rain, etc....If I am almost sure it would sit right around it, I go for it. If its something like downhill shots, I tend to lay up.

The weather also is a factor if there is lots of wind. Putting around 8' watching the wind just take the disc then missing the next shot will drive me crazy.

VictorB 03-29-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KMaC (Post 185152)
What do you do when you're at that distance where you know your push-putt will fall 10' short, but you know your spin-putt will burn way past the basket?

The answer to this depends on how you feel about your range with a push putt. I'm fairly comfortable with my normal putt, and not falling/stepping/jumping, out to 40-45'. Outside of that, I'll jump putt. Outside of my jump putt range, I'll spin putt for both laying up or trying to run the basket. Out closer to 100', I'll throw a nice and easy normal upshot.

JuanA 03-29-2019 10:36 AM

Once I get to where I can't use my normal putt (about 40'), I start to throw higher with some anny, and let the putter pull itself out of it. That way I can put some extra power into the throw to get it there, and the disc will help bleed some of it off with it's fade.

Once I get to about 100', I just use a regular fan grip with some nose up. I'm not a very exciting putter.

BuzzzChief 03-29-2019 11:29 AM

I'll use the same core putting motion out to 75' or so. The longer the putt, the more I'm pushing off with my legs and the harder I'm popping it off my fingers. Also adding a little hyzer and aiming high/right. Beyond 75' or so, I'll throw a nose up lid-style stall shot. Or maybe just jump putt as a layup, if it's a tricky green or an elevated basket.

tylerc 03-29-2019 11:30 AM

spin putt softer. or curl the wrist to add some spin to the push putt.

Monocacy 03-29-2019 12:07 PM

Holy necrobump. For me:

0 - 35' push putt
35-45' falling putt
45-65' jump putt
> 65' throw-in attempt or layup.

Give or take a few feet . . .

ThrowBot 03-29-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Monocacy (Post 3434545)
Holy necrobump.

^^ This!

thirtydirtybirds 03-29-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KMaC (Post 185236)
Getting more power behind my push-putt is exactly what I need to do.

How exactly does one go about doing that?

All about the legs man. Once I figured out how pushing into the ground transfers to more putting power, I can shovel putt out to almost 50í now. Itís all about feeling how the spring from your legs transfers to the disc. I wish I could describe it better.

ThrowaEnvy 03-29-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewis (Post 185538)
Speaking from ignorance (I don't really know whether you'd call me a spin putter or a push putter), here's my mostly worthless advice. If you can't get it there with your regular push putt, turn your hips a bit more, reach back a little farther (in your hip pocket rather than your sternum), aim a little higher and to the right, and give your layup a chance to go in. In both golf and disc golf, I prefer to "die it in the hole." I figure throwing it harder than I need to won't do me any good.

Yes... just going to write this only more simply... I twist my body more by loading my hips with a footing change.

But now I feel the need to do better and elaborate

Short putts my feet line up towards the basket, lead foot pointing, back foot at 90.
Awkward range, my lead foot goes forward and I'm at a 45 to the basket, it gives my a longer reachback under my armpit area

armiller 03-29-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Monocacy (Post 3434545)
Holy necrobump.

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Originally Posted by ThrowBot (Post 3434570)
^^ This!

And yet, if we could have restrained for just 7.5 more months, we could have made it a full ten years. I'm just a tad disappointed.

For me, same motion up to around 50 feet but depends on other circumstances (e.g. wind, elevated basket, water or drop-off near by, back stop or no). My putting is continuing to get better, and I've been making more and more long ones in competitive situations... Nevertheless, if I'm not feeling it, I'm always happy to lay things up from 50 feet, even longer sometimes. I'm working on that 20 foot confidence, but I have a really high percentage from 8' and in.

joecoin 03-29-2019 03:42 PM

Yeah, it's sad to see a potential 10 year bump get wasted.

Anyhoo, if the OP is still alive, I'd throw a glideless turd in that range where you're having trouble blowing past the basket.

Riggs419 03-30-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3434585)
Yes... just going to write this only more simply... I twist my body more by loading my hips with a footing change.

But now I feel the need to do better and elaborate

Short putts my feet line up towards the basket, lead foot pointing, back foot at 90.
Awkward range, my lead foot goes forward and I'm at a 45 to the basket, it gives my a longer reachback under my armpit area

I agree, I tend to simply adjust my back foot and hips to allow for a further reach back, but for me I think this happens closer to the 35 ft. range.

Jeffm789 03-30-2019 09:27 PM

I lay up & take my bogey like a man.

Casey 1988 04-10-2019 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KMaC (Post 185152)
What do you do when you're at that distance where you know your push-putt will fall 10' short, but you know your spin-putt will burn way past the basket?

I am going to fall 10 feet short Then I am using a pushing spin putt with less power, as I still go with some push elements to my spin as I add more spin to my push putt past the 20 foot slot where the push only putt is at my max. I do not go for a full spin putt unless past 27 feet or wind near 18 mph up to ~25 mph +/- 2 mph is affecting the putt. With wind steady at 28 mph or gusts of 35 mph or more I use either my Pro or Star Shark both at 175 grams. Both Shark discs are used depending on wind and shot shape for approach from about 35 feet to about 70-75 feet and the Star Shark is also my driving putter slot. I have 2 Shark 3 Champion for my true midrange shot and both discs are different as a Shark as a putter like float to the glide and the Shark 3 has a glide like a midrange.

Casey 1988 04-10-2019 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey 1988 (Post 3439291)
I am going to fall 10 feet short Then I am using a pushing spin putt with less power, as I still go with some push elements to my spin as I add more spin to my push putt past the 20 foot slot where the push only putt is at my max. I do not go for a full spin putt unless past 27 feet or wind near 18 mph up to ~25 mph +/- 2 mph is affecting the putt. With wind steady at 28 mph or gusts of 35 mph or more I use either my Pro or Star Shark both at 175 grams. Both Shark discs are used depending on wind and shot shape for approach from about 35 feet to about 70-75 feet and the Star Shark is also my driving putter slot. I have 2 Shark 3 Champion for my true midrange shot and both discs are different as a Shark as a putter like float to the glide and the Shark 3 has a glide like a midrange.

Of course with some of the numbers like wind I am not that accurate as I am playing on a course with no way to check the actual numbers but if the slow putter I use is getting pushed around by wind then I switch if need be on non heavily wooded holes.

Titan037 04-10-2019 11:59 AM

I have come to find out that putting comes to two things, timing and follow through. Think of your body as a slingshot for the disc. You don’t need a lot of arm movement, timing the launch of the disc from your hand with your weight shift is what will get the disc going the right speed, the follow through is what will help it make sure its aimed at the right point on the basket. Try to use more of your legs in your putt, not necessarily bend lower, but feel the tension in your legs so the you can feel your self spring the disc forward from your hand. That timing gives you the pop you need, which gives you the spin you need without relying on a full spin putt or worrying about falling short with a pure push putt. IMO learning to be a hybrid putter is what helped my be a lot more consistent on my putting and helped me narrow it down to what i just stated which keeps my routine simple when putting, focus on the center of the pole, put the weight into my legs, and follow through at the center of the pole. Really it just comes to down to experimenting what works and what doesn’t. Changing my grip helped as well. I use a modified fan grip with my pinky on the inside rim. Took some time to get used to but works like a charm for me personally now

Aim For The Chains 04-10-2019 12:13 PM

Pratice your spin putts and stop going past the basket.

Casey 1988 04-13-2019 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aim For The Chains (Post 3439406)
Pratice your spin putts and stop going past the basket.

Or have a hybrid spin push to make this shot and so you do not need spin putt if you do push putting as you main putting, how I got better at putting after I switched up my putt in 2014 as I had a 0% spin basketball spin putt at the time. I have though done a spin putt when I need to wind is up but not past the point my approach midrange is used to make shots using a push putt until winds make it so I have to use a spin putt.


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