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seedlings 12-27-2021 10:12 AM

It’s been 7 minutes since the early link emailed for the Black Mystery Boxes with Rainmakers, and they aren’t sold out. Either DM had more available or there is less demand?

DiscT 12-27-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3777025)
Itís been 7 minutes since the early link emailed for the Black Mystery Boxes with Rainmakers, and they arenít sold out. Either DM had more available or there is less demand?

Two prototype putters in one year/season doesnít have a lot of allure. This box ends on a bit of a flat note, and I think if they wouldíve gone glow Iron Samurai md3, sky god, or an FD variant it would have been different. I also think many are underwhelmed with the Black Friday allotment. Iím sure a full year of production will yield more epic options for next year (theyíre probably sitting on CB3 misprints as we speak!)

Happy new year, Discmaniacs!!

robdeforge 12-27-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3777025)
Itís been 7 minutes since the early link emailed for the Black Mystery Boxes with Rainmakers, and they arenít sold out. Either DM had more available or there is less demand?

still in stock as of 11:11 AM eastern, so my guess is more supply and slightly less demand as pointed out by poster above me

Agarner14 12-27-2021 11:54 AM

It has to be demand related.

The black friday boxes were underwhelming for many that are used to the "mystery element". All it took was a quick look on reddit to see that most people were getting 1-2 x-outs, an enigma, 2-3 "special edition" evolution line discs, genius/rockstar, special stamped instinct, shogun/evolution misprint, plus the MD1. That is literally 99% of the box contents I saw posted online (either youtube unboxings or reddit). Personally, because I throw a lot of evolution line discs I was happy with my box, but I can see how a lot of people would back down from buying another. The active line discs are really the main downside for me.

It's interesting to me that DM would put a lot of production power into the mystery box season, especially on a rebuilding year when disc golf is growing so quickly. They could have maybe just done one mystery box or none and instead put all that production effort into releasing new evolution molds (Splice, mutant, etc) or put the cash into production/development of DM originals. I know that the mystery boxes are an important part of the brand, but I think more people want dependable disc supply and introduction of new molds than they care about a missed season of mystery boxes.

DM needs to be vigilant that they don't lose the hype surrounding the boxes. They clearly followed a pattern this year when it comes to box content. I get the special stamps/plastics, but I mean most boxes had the same general pattern. If DM wants to re-build the hype they need to cut the active line discs out of the boxes for future releases and actually introduce a degree of mystery from one box to the next. Get some player signatures in there and focus more on the evolution line than the active line.

That being said, I still snagged a Black Box about an hour ago.....

Curious to hear from others on this.

rogue5ster 12-27-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Agarner14 (Post 3777045)
It has to be demand related.

The black friday boxes were underwhelming for many that are used to the "mystery element". All it took was a quick look on reddit to see that most people were getting 1-2 x-outs, an enigma, 2-3 "special edition" evolution line discs, genius/rockstar, special stamped instinct, shogun/evolution misprint, plus the MD1. That is literally 99% of the box contents I saw posted online (either youtube unboxings or reddit). Personally, because I throw a lot of evolution line discs I was happy with my box, but I can see how a lot of people would back down from buying another. The active line discs are really the main downside for me.

It's interesting to me that DM would put a lot of production power into the mystery box season, especially on a rebuilding year when disc golf is growing so quickly. They could have maybe just done one mystery box or none and instead put all that production effort into releasing new evolution molds (Splice, mutant, etc) or put the cash into production/development of DM originals. I know that the mystery boxes are an important part of the brand, but I think more people want dependable disc supply and introduction of new molds than they care about a missed season of mystery boxes.

DM needs to be vigilant that they don't lose the hype surrounding the boxes. They clearly followed a pattern this year when it comes to box content. I get the special stamps/plastics, but I mean most boxes had the same general pattern. If DM wants to re-build the hype they need to cut the active line discs out of the boxes for future releases and actually introduce a degree of mystery from one box to the next. Get some player signatures in there and focus more on the evolution line than the active line.

That being said, I still snagged a Black Box about an hour ago.....

Curious to hear from others on this.

I agree with everything you said and passed on this box. My brother and I both got a Black Friday box and they were exactly the same apart from one disc.

seedlings 12-27-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Agarner14 (Post 3777045)
It has to be demand related.

The black friday boxes were underwhelming for many that are used to the "mystery element". All it took was a quick look on reddit to see that most people were getting 1-2 x-outs, an enigma, 2-3 "special edition" evolution line discs, genius/rockstar, special stamped instinct, shogun/evolution misprint, plus the MD1. That is literally 99% of the box contents I saw posted online (either youtube unboxings or reddit). Personally, because I throw a lot of evolution line discs I was happy with my box, but I can see how a lot of people would back down from buying another. The active line discs are really the main downside for me.

It's interesting to me that DM would put a lot of production power into the mystery box season, especially on a rebuilding year when disc golf is growing so quickly. They could have maybe just done one mystery box or none and instead put all that production effort into releasing new evolution molds (Splice, mutant, etc) or put the cash into production/development of DM originals. I know that the mystery boxes are an important part of the brand, but I think more people want dependable disc supply and introduction of new molds than they care about a missed season of mystery boxes.

DM needs to be vigilant that they don't lose the hype surrounding the boxes. They clearly followed a pattern this year when it comes to box content. I get the special stamps/plastics, but I mean most boxes had the same general pattern. If DM wants to re-build the hype they need to cut the active line discs out of the boxes for future releases and actually introduce a degree of mystery from one box to the next. Get some player signatures in there and focus more on the evolution line than the active line.

That being said, I still snagged a Black Box about an hour ago.....

Curious to hear from others on this.

Regarding variety and mystery, they said these black boxes will also be very similar to one another, and discs were loaded into boxes were before any Evo discs were being made by DM machines (instead of lat), ď when the production of Mystery Box products was set up, we didn't have our own factory yet...Ē Which is odd because there are brand new Rainmakers. Are Rainmakers made on Lat64 or DM machines?

I still bought one because I missed the last box.

ian.w 12-27-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3777049)
Are Rainmakers made on Lat64 or DM machines?

Same machines bro, stop being silly.

BillFleming 12-27-2021 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by seedlings (Post 3777025)
Itís been 7 minutes since the early link emailed for the Black Mystery Boxes with Rainmakers, and they arenít sold out. Either DM had more available or there is less demand?

People are really particular about their putters and many won't even consider changing. So a Black Mystery Box where the "excitement" is about a putter? I'm not surprised there isn't a big demand.

Also...it's the holidays...so why spend big bucks for a MB where the main draw is a putter? A truly unique disc like the Tilt....that's different.

wims 12-27-2021 12:46 PM

Putters are the most exciting discs in disc golf, what are you newbies on about

seedlings 12-27-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ian.w (Post 3777056)
Same machines bro, stop being silly.

I’m winking with you on that. However, since Discmania parses out the production (and plastics), and uses ‘dedicated production’ as a reason for sameness in these boxes, I am giving them an opportunity to further parse it out in their own words.


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