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Soups 02-28-2015 06:55 AM

What's the difference between the first and second run FD available on the discmania store?

DinosaurThunder 02-28-2015 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Soups (Post 2713835)
What's the difference between the first and second run FD available on the discmania store?

First runs have a fair amount of dome and are stable. First runs are very straight flying with a slight fade. These are harder to find. This is my favorite run of the FD and the only run I bag.

Second runs are flat and pearly (have bubbles in the rim). This disc is very stable/straight with a fade at the end of flight. This disc holds up to power well and will beat in very straight. I would say this flies slightly farther than the first runs.

Third runs flight is right in the middle of the first and second runs. I have heard this run gives the best of both worlds as far as flight goes.

Soups 02-28-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2713859)
First runs have a fair amount of dome and are stable. First runs are very straight flying with a slight fade. These are harder to find. This is my favorite run of the FD and the only run I bag.

Second runs are flat and pearly (have bubbles in the rim). This disc is very stable/straight with a fade at the end of flight. This disc holds up to power well and will beat in very straight. I would say this flies slightly farther than the first runs.

Third runs flight is right in the middle of the first and second runs. I have heard this run gives the best of both worlds as far as flight goes.

Thanks D.T. :)

BirdieMachine 03-01-2015 07:01 AM

So P-Line FD's?

vogurt 03-01-2015 06:51 PM

Are P2x's going top happen?!

I just got a D and X P1x, after putting with Ions last year. I liked them without the wind I was crusing from 25 ft in the garage all night, but with wind I was hoping for a little more fade.

I'm wondering If a P2 would be similar to my Ion? I don't like that I'm putting with Neutron plastic, very slick. And I would imagine a P2 with a medium bead would be even a tick more OS so I don't want to buy a P2 if P2x's will be a thing soon!!

Thanks

whentherainscome 03-01-2015 07:03 PM

Nice looking glow discs in the store right now. Too bad they're all max wt. :-/

JTacoma03 03-03-2015 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vogurt (Post 2714959)
Are P2x's going top happen?!

I just got a D and X P1x, after putting with Ions last year. I liked them without the wind I was crusing from 25 ft in the garage all night, but with wind I was hoping for a little more fade.

I'm wondering If a P2 would be similar to my Ion? I don't like that I'm putting with Neutron plastic, very slick. And I would imagine a P2 with a medium bead would be even a tick more OS so I don't want to buy a P2 if P2x's will be a thing soon!!

Thanks

IMO MVP discs are severely lacking in glide. P2's are overstable enough to be thrown off the tee, on the approach, and obviously are great for both push and spin putters (Avery and Simon both use them, and their putting styles are very contrasting). You really can't get a better beadless putter.

rarintal 03-03-2015 05:56 PM

Hey Guys, Sorry for taking so long to get answers posted.

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Originally Posted by goeyj (Post 2696932)
Yes! I frequently order F2 from the Innova Proshop and X-Outs from you guys. I find your stock to be much more interesting because I get lots of fun tournament and misprint stamps.

Thank you for the interesting insight. We will keep that in mind for social media posts. We might have to start sharing pictures of the X-OUTS for you guys.

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2696948)
I agree with that! I love throwing unique x-out discs and would pick them up more frequently with a few teasers thrown out there :)

Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2696953)
A few ideas...

Realistic Ideas:
MF MD3's and FD's! Black P-line P2's with a EO stamp would be awesome too!

Long Shot Ideas:
a special run s-line FD2 or G-line DD

Thank you for taking the time to respond! Glad to see your team made it through the VRoc madness!

Just barely made it through, Thanks for the ideas of what you would like to see for the future fundraiser discs.

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Originally Posted by talltee32 (Post 2697456)
I'm mainly waiting for P1x to get stocked. Besides that, I always look at the x-outs to see if anything cool pops up. I think I enjoy the x-outs more then anything lol

P1x are restocked!

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Originally Posted by Magicweed (Post 2697458)
Same here on the P1xs, particularly in X-line. I need to grab a stack of them for practice putting.

We will be getting them back in stock as soon as possible.

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2697468)
European Open fundraiser flat stiff c-line md2s!!! Please.

We will keep that in mind. Have you tried our flatter MD3?

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2697530)
MF MD3 for EO is a kickass idea for sure. fix that very OS DM midrange slot "problem" in the process. I bag a glow MD3 from the last time EO was around, not only for collectors!

The newest run of the Glow MD3 is even more overstable. They are up on the Discmania Store now.

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Originally Posted by desertstormvet (Post 2697536)
Sorry, i was thinking all wrong, took me a second to realize that JLS is Millennium. Sorry. Still would like to try a FD someday if I could find one in my weight

What is your weight?

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Originally Posted by fasteddie (Post 2697587)
metal flake MD3, FD, PD, PD2. I could see all of those molds selling fast.

Interesting. We will keep that in mind for the future fundraisers.

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Originally Posted by booter (Post 2697705)
There are mf cpd's

yes for the Aussie Open fundraiser.

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Originally Posted by OlyWA Kenobi (Post 2697727)
Yeah! And they bring the BEEF!!! Believe that!

Do you think they are more overstable than the glow PD?

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Originally Posted by fasteddie (Post 2697847)
I want some of the MF but my PD collection is reaching a pretty stupid number.

Other than one PD that was ganked out of the fairway by some jerk, I haven't had to put in a new disc out of my back ups in over two seasons.

(not including the ones in my bag)

5x first run c

4x 6th run JL c

10x Freak Stamp s

and a handful of g line and p line.....


But think that the molds that I suggested being run in MF as the euro open discs would be hot sellers.

interesting. Thanks for the information.

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Originally Posted by gerth_vader (Post 2698636)
I would love to see glow p-line p2, fd in another plastic (x-line or p-line), p1x in p-line, p2x in x-line, stiff flat glow c-line pd, color glow c-line fd pd and p3!

Interesting. well at least one of those are coming for sure :)

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2698653)
oh yes, forgot. golor glow everything, including the kitchen sink!

maybe a color glow C-LINE MD3 next?

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Originally Posted by Rol6566 (Post 2698718)
D-MD3, KC-MD3, G-PD2, G-DD....

You guys would make a killing with some of those discs

Flat MF C-P2

And some special Metal Flake discs too

Thanks for the information. Might see those one day.

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2702079)
Any chance we will see more black p-line P2's produced? I am having some serious sellers remorse from letting mine fly the coup. Would love to pick some up for spring!

There's always a chance for more of those in the future.

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Originally Posted by SpikeHyzer (Post 2702088)
Will we see a truly understable midrange in the Discmania line up? The MD2 and MD3 seems to have the slightly to moderately overstable slot covered, it would be great to have something in the straight to slightly understable slot in a premium plastic.

Yes you will see this slot filled.

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Originally Posted by fasteddie (Post 2702488)
retool the MD1 already!

Working on it. We want it to be perfect before we release it.

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Originally Posted by clard (Post 2702975)
I want to start by saying I love the discs you guys are putting out, and the amount of info you give us about them. Super cool. Thanks for listening to the people.

Your shipping is really pricey. Even the Innova Factory store (which is very expensive too) gives you the over $80 free shipping which is a nice incentive to grab a stack of discs rather than 1 or 2. It's just harsh to pay MSRP for your discs (when I can get some of them for less at other online stores and get free shipping) and then pay through the nose for shipping too.

I'm not going to stop buying from you because of it, but I personally always buy at least $80 worth of discs from Innova for the free shipping and I would do the same at your store. Think about it!

Thank you for the insight. We offer the free shipping periodically throughout the year. We don't offer it at the moment all the time but we have heard your opinion.

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Originally Posted by OB Four (Post 2703017)
Not sure if it's been asked or not. Just a question for fun.. is there going to be a Simon Lizotte signature blizzard boss?

Unfortunately I honestly don't know about this subject. I work on our discs, sorry :)

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Originally Posted by booter (Post 2704554)
Colored glow cmd3's and cpd's ,please? :)

Thanks for the request. We like having all the requests, it really lets us know what you guys want.

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Originally Posted by booter (Post 2704556)
Or any flat glow cmd'2s in the near future?

We'll consider it for sure.

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2704963)
^^^^ What he said!!! On another note, I received my box of first run xp1x today. Each disc was bagged separately and I just wanted to point out what awesome customer service Discmania has. I can spent my hard earned money anywhere I like and I keep coming back to the same place. I would however like to see a shipping break if you spend over $80 in one shot as would others. Keep up the great work down there and I will keep sending you the cash I earn up here!

Thanks for the kind words. We try to ship out first runs and fundraiser discs bagged. Thanks for the insight on the shipping too.

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Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2705162)
Try to find the run of jolly launcher flat MD3's - ignore the # after the MD that run is really straight.

Very true. The Flat runs came out really straight much like the first run Roc3s

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Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2705207)
apparently the new run of JL MD2's are really straight. i really wish they would make the MD1 something comet/fuse like with a similar rim kind of rim shape as the MD2/MD3. i love the fuse but ive never really liked that really concave rim shape.

We are working on that slot. Hopefully we will have something for you guys sooner than later.

rarintal 03-03-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fasteddie (Post 2705240)
Other than once in a while happy accidents (2nd run FD) a wide variation of flights from the same mold between runs is for the birds.

I'm a fellow discmaniac and these are some suggestions/observations/stream of consciousness thought barf

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED! (including that there will always be a *slight* variation between runs, there are already variations of runs/plastics to cover *most slots*)

Compared to the distance and fairway line ups, the mids are a mess.

the name of the game is consistency..

all MD3s should be overstable.

all MD2s should be stable.

all MD1s(after the possible retool) should fly understable.

these three flight paths plus the GM as a tweener/utility beefcake MD4** would be a complete midrange line up that rivals the competitors.

there is barely any distinction between the MD1/MD2/MD3 at least not enough to cover all bag slots (truly overstable/truly understable). They are all stable/straight to fade flyers

Please don't just start shoehorning mold after mold into the line up.

If discmania could offer a complete range of mid flight paths from understable to overstable (md1/md2/md3/md4**) keeping simplicity (number of molds) and consistency paramount (they fly like they should), they would be ahead of the game.

I love how discmania has kept a close eye on variations and made it a point to know the subtleties of flight paths. Being proactive and vocal as to which ones you're buying has seriously separated them from the competition (for the better) in my eyes..

BUT!

wouldn't it be easier if all MD3s flew like MD3s?

Very good points. The variation between the the MD2 and MD3 right now is that one is flatter and faster and the other one has a bit of a dome. We are working on making our disc line up perfect. Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts for us.

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2705616)
I must commend you for the stock stamp x-line P2 with a mini store stamp! I would love to see this done on other molds :) reminds me of when innova puts mini wings on stock stamps. Just a nice touch and nice look! Keep up the good work!

Thank you, We will consider it for sure.

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Originally Posted by markbuch (Post 2705811)
This would be awesome. If I recall, Discmania's glow plastic is softer than Jolly Launcher which would be great. Flat/gummier would be a dream. It's basically impossible to find the old opaque CMD2s anywhere.

Thanks for your thoughts. Have you tried our flat C-LINE MD3s? They are very straight but can still handle the power the same way the older MD2s did.

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2706593)
get a glow MD3, in my experience they are 99,9% the same disc as good 'ol flat opaque cmd2s

I believe the MD3s are overstable, but i've been wrong before.

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Originally Posted by gerth_vader (Post 2707224)
I think a flat topped glow c-line GM would also be a great fundraiser disc

Interesting. The GM seems to have a pretty good following.

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Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2707243)
i thought the glow MD3's were actually beefy? the opaque cmd2's started out with solid fade but i wouldn't call them beefy. i guess i need to buy one to see for myself.

i also would be ecstatic if they brought back the gummier plastic for CMD2's, if that means glow plastic whatever. im just overall not a huge fan of the hard slick plastic for my mids; that's why i'm hoarding the opaque gummies.

Interesting. Thanks for the insight.

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2707261)
thats what people keep saying but the two glow md3s i have are indentical, slightly power hungry maybe but straight with moderate fade. forehand given a good snap they are surprisingly long and super straight.

maybe my md2 was a freak? dunno, anyways IMO these were the perfect replacement to when I lost it

The glow C-LINE MD3s are really good. Simon Lizotte is using the new domey Glow C-MD3.

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Originally Posted by fasteddie (Post 2709175)
I feel like a flat topped GM would fly like a badass slim profile gator.. or an MD4* :thmbup:

Interesting idea.

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Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2709344)
that pretty much describes the opaques i have; then after you beat them in a bit the fade kinda dies off but the high speed stability stays. to me the first JL run were more power hungry and the flats really lacked glide and the domier ones faded to early. even the ones i beat in still didn't fly as well as the opaques, they just wouldn't get up and go the same way.

they're saying the new run of JL's are more like the originals so I'll have to check those out but I still would rather have a softer plastic for my mids.

Have you tried the newer run of the C-LINE MD2?

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Originally Posted by mrDROCK (Post 2709348)
G-Line FDs and FD2s in the future?

We have G-LINE FDs.

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2709350)
G- line FDs exist.

True.

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Originally Posted by runningDoc (Post 2709394)
they actually have Factory Seconds G-FDs and D-FD (yup DX FDs for $6.00) at the Innova Factory Store. There is also first run X-out G-FDs (only in max weight though) at the Discmania online store.

We should have more of these when we get our x-out stock updated.

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Originally Posted by rallyguy (Post 2710426)
Do you guys not produce a lot of lighter weight C line plastic? It seems like 170-171 is the lightest I usually find online, even at the Discmania store. Do the lighter weights not mold up how you want them? Just curious as to how that decision gets made.

Cliff notes: I'd love to find a 167g 3rd run or later C FD and C CD2 :D

At the moment all of the lighter C-LINE FDs we have are the hard pearly 2nd run. Which I believe is not what you're looking for.

We will take a look at the CD2 situation and get them if they are available.

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Originally Posted by rallyguy (Post 2710797)
Those were the two exceptions, I forgot to mention those. Those light FD's are my favorites, 166-169 are right in my wheelhouse.

I'd love a non blizzard DD2 or even a PD2 that light

I believe we have some of the PD2s available right now. they are either mini shield stamped and stock stamped.

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Originally Posted by dehaas (Post 2712614)
The low 160s s line dd2s from hero flat out bombed. Think that's the longest forehand disc I've thrown.

Interesting. Maybe we will have to take a trip over there and see if they have any left.

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Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2712973)
Yes, agreed. Since it's not my place to speak on that part of the operation, I'll just say it's something they're aware of. :)

I've had some of the same issues in switching over from the Roc/Roc3/Shark3 combo I was using, but thanks to the tireless efforts of the legendary Ryan Rintala I've got a good set together now.

Glow C-MD3's are overstable
new run C-MD3's (more dome) are stable
flat C-MD2's are drifty with some fade
flat gummy JL MD3's are point-and-shoot line holders

Hope this helps for now.

Thanks for the kind words. We try to help out anyone that calls in too. Anybody out there please feel free to call the store and we will try to help you with what you're looking for.

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Originally Posted by fasteddie (Post 2713373)
yarp


Ryan is the man.

Awe thanks guys, you're making me blush.

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Originally Posted by New013 (Post 2713833)
are the glow MD3's on the site domey or flat?

The new glow MD3s have moderate dome. It's the most overstable mid we have right now.

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Originally Posted by Soups (Post 2713835)
What's the difference between the first and second run FD available on the discmania store?

First run FDs fly straight with high glide and 2nd runs fly straight with extra high speed stability and harder fade.

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 2713859)
First runs have a fair amount of dome and are stable. First runs are very straight flying with a slight fade. These are harder to find. This is my favorite run of the FD and the only run I bag.

Second runs are flat and pearly (have bubbles in the rim). This disc is very stable/straight with a fade at the end of flight. This disc holds up to power well and will beat in very straight. I would say this flies slightly farther than the first runs.

Third runs flight is right in the middle of the first and second runs. I have heard this run gives the best of both worlds as far as flight goes.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by BirdieMachine (Post 2714552)
So P-Line FD's?

Still working on a couple things first before we move on to new creations.

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Originally Posted by vogurt (Post 2714959)
Are P2x's going top happen?!

I just got a D and X P1x, after putting with Ions last year. I liked them without the wind I was crusing from 25 ft in the garage all night, but with wind I was hoping for a little more fade.

I'm wondering If a P2 would be similar to my Ion? I don't like that I'm putting with Neutron plastic, very slick. And I would imagine a P2 with a medium bead would be even a tick more OS so I don't want to buy a P2 if P2x's will be a thing soon!!

Thanks

P2x will not be coming that soon. When we tested them the P2 was more overstable. But then again that was a C-LINE P2.

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Originally Posted by whentherainscome (Post 2714967)
Nice looking glow discs in the store right now. Too bad they're all max wt. :-/

thanks, unfortunately they are all heavy at the moment. The glow C-LINE FDs are actually one of the more understable versions of the FD

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Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2716667)
IMO MVP discs are severely lacking in glide. P2's are overstable enough to be thrown off the tee, on the approach, and obviously are great for both push and spin putters (Avery and Simon both use them, and their putting styles are very contrasting). You really can't get a better beadless putter.

Thanks, we really love the P2 it really gets the job done.


Whew! finally caught up, thanks for all of the comments and questions guys! It's great to hear from all of the current and future Discmaniacs!

Best Regards,
Ryan Rintala

SpikeHyzer 03-04-2015 08:31 AM

Dear lord...that was a whole bunch rolled up into one. Thanks for always keeping us in the know Ryan.

markbuch 03-04-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SpikeHyzer (Post 2717839)
Dear lord...that was a whole bunch rolled up into one. Thanks for always keeping us in the know Ryan.

If only all manufacturers had customer service like this, answering every single question in this thread. I even accidentally emailed Ryan yesterday when I meant to email a different Ryan here at work and he ended up answering a bunch of questions I had about MD2s and MD3s. Great guy to work with.

I do love how Discmania recognizes and celebrates the differences between different production runs and sells them separately with different descriptions. It makes buying new discs that much easier... but ends up hurting my diminishing PayPal balance :D

vogurt 03-04-2015 10:21 AM

Seeing this thread is basically the reason I went out and bought 3 FD's 4 PD's 2 P1x's a glow MD3.. CD2..

And since your answered my P2X question... No worries, I already went out and bought 2 172G P-line P2's ;) my pointer finger sits absolutely perfect on that rim. I haven't gotten to putt these yet but I'm thinking they will be my main putter.

You're the bomb. My bag will always consist of Discmania from here on out.

McDirty61458 03-05-2015 02:55 PM

I was wondering if you guys ever thought about making vinyl decal for cars. I know I would love to have a big discmania shield on my back window.

Jozzz 03-08-2015 08:49 AM

G-line PD2s? Bueller?

I love seeing some of the limited stock discs pop up on your store. I'll definitely be looking to pick up some more glow MD3s, etc. However, there's no way G-PD2s wouldn't be a success. I have a good mix of PD2s in the bag, but I think a G-PD2 (especially a domey one) would be perfect for big s-curve bombs after a little beating in. I have a couple first run euro-open C-PD2s but they took an eternity to get to that point and I would hate to lose them. Additionally it would be nice to have the same disc with a little less HSS. When I bagged destroyers, I went S/DS, champ DS, *D, echo DS in order of stability. It would be nice to be able to do the same with PD2s in premium plastic.

pnasalberta 03-08-2015 11:22 PM

What happened to free shipping on the DM store?

clard 03-09-2015 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pnasalberta (Post 2722509)
What happened to free shipping on the DM store?

They occasionally do it for special events. It's never been standard.

Flick Maniac 03-09-2015 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by McDirty61458 (Post 2719594)
I was wondering if you guys ever thought about making vinyl decal for cars. I know I would love to have a big discmania shield on my back window.

I doubt they would have any opposition to you having one done for yourself. They do own the logo copyrights but I think the free advertisement would be a good trade off.

Flick Maniac 03-09-2015 11:43 AM

After throwing X-line for the first time today (P1X), I wonder if it will be rolled out in other molds too? X-P2s are a thing I know, but maybe drivers too if it holds up well. XT PDs would be sick and with that tackyness you could get crazy snap on them too...

Columbia gorge 03-09-2015 10:48 PM

Does the new flatter run of pd2s have bubbles in the rim? I ordered a couple and they have bubbles, dome and fly just like the previous run. Just making sure I received the correct discs.

Brodysseus 03-09-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2722874)
After throwing X-line for the first time today (P1X), I wonder if it will be rolled out in other molds too? X-P2s are a thing I know, but maybe drivers too if it holds up well. XT PDs would be sick and with that tackyness you could get crazy snap on them too...

XT PDs, yes please.

Think you'll ever make D-line PDs?

Aveksi 03-09-2015 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2723535)
Does the new flatter run of pd2s have bubbles in the rim? I ordered a couple and they have bubbles, dome and fly just like the previous run. Just making sure I received the correct discs.

Mine has bubbles in the rim. The plastic is also much more cloudy compared to a regular JL-plastic but not domey at all. Not nearly as OS as the previous run.

Columbia gorge 03-09-2015 11:40 PM

Thanks for quick response. That disc does not have the same profile as the ones I received. Mine are exactly like previous run making me think there was a mix up.

Aveksi 03-09-2015 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2723592)
Thanks for quick response. That disc does not have the same profile as the ones I received.

Which color did you receive? Could you post a picture of your disc?

Columbia gorge 03-10-2015 12:01 AM

I ordered yellow and yellow- green. I looked at a blue in a local shop and it was as flat as yours. Maybe the blues molded up flatter. I suck at posting pix from my ipad but they are as domey as the previous run.

SpikeHyzer 03-10-2015 09:51 AM

Any chance we will see a P-Line P1x by this summer? I change putter plastic based on temperature. Would love the same mix of p-line that's used in the KP2's to be used on some P1x's.

OB Four 03-11-2015 12:06 AM

question for ryan or anyone else that might have the answer.

I have this c-line pd, cannot figure out which run it is. All I truly know is that it's not a 1st run. It's pretty flat, very stiff, and the plastic is glass clear. I had assumed it was a 6th run based off the description on the discmania site (http://store.discmania.net/index.php...e-pd-flat.html) but I bought one from the site and the plastic was not nearly as stiff or as clear. The disc is yellow and the 6th run I bought is blue. I dunno if the color of plastic would make a difference or not.

Anyone know the run?

TLDR: Anyone know what run my flat, glass-clear, stiff PD is?

Rol6566 03-11-2015 01:40 PM

Could be 5th run. The 5th were jolly launcher as well

notroman 03-11-2015 01:57 PM

All the 5th runs I've seen were pop top domey. The only flat/clear/stiff PD I've seen was the first run. I have one still in a box somewhere.

Rol6566 03-11-2015 03:15 PM

Those are the 4th. The domey with clear flight plate and opaque rims

Um... 03-11-2015 04:22 PM

DD2?
 
What is the most true to the flight numbers DD2 that is currently being produced?

I've had several DD2's and I've really wanted to bag one as a compliment to the PD2, but they've been wildly inconsistent for me. The one that flew the closest to the advertised flight was a heavier Blizzard, but it got flippy soon after I got it. I grabbed another one and it was pretty much a roller out of the box. Tried a p-line and it was too flippy. I also have an s-line that flies more OS than my PD2's and I've tried everything to make it more stable, but no luck. Only one I've not tried is a c-line.

I'd love to have a DD2 that starts off with a bit of high speed turn and a nice hard fade. Does that disc exist? Maybe I should look at beating in a p-line PD2 instead?

skizzle34 03-12-2015 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Um... (Post 2725212)
What is the most true to the flight numbers DD2 that is currently being produced?

I've had several DD2's and I've really wanted to bag one as a compliment to the PD2, but they've been wildly inconsistent for me. The one that flew the closest to the advertised flight was a heavier Blizzard, but it got flippy soon after I got it. I grabbed another one and it was pretty much a roller out of the box. Tried a p-line and it was too flippy. I also have an s-line that flies more OS than my PD2's and I've tried everything to make it more stable, but no luck. Only one I've not tried is a c-line.

I'd love to have a DD2 that starts off with a bit of high speed turn and a nice hard fade. Does that disc exist? Maybe I should look at beating in a p-line PD2 instead?


I had 2 echo star DD2s and when I ordered them I asked for the highest PLH possible to make sure they were a little more stable. One of them was pretty much a destroyer mild turn followed by healthy fade and the other was like a katana where it would turn over released on a hyzer angle. I am still wishing they would make a disc in between the DD2 and PD2!

JTacoma03 03-12-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Um... (Post 2725212)
What is the most true to the flight numbers DD2 that is currently being produced?

I've had several DD2's and I've really wanted to bag one as a compliment to the PD2, but they've been wildly inconsistent for me. The one that flew the closest to the advertised flight was a heavier Blizzard, but it got flippy soon after I got it. I grabbed another one and it was pretty much a roller out of the box. Tried a p-line and it was too flippy. I also have an s-line that flies more OS than my PD2's and I've tried everything to make it more stable, but no luck. Only one I've not tried is a c-line.

I'd love to have a DD2 that starts off with a bit of high speed turn and a nice hard fade. Does that disc exist? Maybe I should look at beating in a p-line PD2 instead?

I'd definitely try the C-line. In my bag I keep 2 C-line and 1 Echo S-Line as my main distance drivers. The flight is exactly what you're describing for me when thrown on a slight hyzer.

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Originally Posted by skizzle34 (Post 2725592)
I had 2 echo star DD2s and when I ordered them I asked for the highest PLH possible to make sure they were a little more stable. One of them was pretty much a destroyer mild turn followed by healthy fade and the other was like a katana where it would turn over released on a hyzer angle. I am still wishing they would make a disc in between the DD2 and PD2!

In stability that would be a DD, though it isn't quite as fast.

skizzle34 03-12-2015 05:25 PM

The DD for me was a weird tweener between my PD and destroyers. It was just slightly faster and maybe 10-15 longer in average than my PD but less comfortable to throw and slower with about 30-40ft less distance potential than my destroyers. I just want a discmania destroyer!

SpikeHyzer 03-13-2015 11:07 AM

I've had bum luck with the DD2(S-Line) lately The two S-Line's(New Stamp) I picked up recently were more overstable than my bubble rim C-PD2's. Anybody else have the same experience? I might try a C-Line to see if they fit the bill.

Um... 03-13-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SpikeHyzer (Post 2726600)
I've had bum luck with the DD2(S-Line) lately The two S-Line's(New Stamp) I picked up recently were more overstable than my bubble rim C-PD2's. Anybody else have the same experience? I might try a C-Line to see if they fit the bill.

Heck yes! I have an old stamp S-line that is more OS than some of my PD2's and I've tried all sorts of things to try and make that disc less stable. Trimming flashing, throwing it directly into trees, rocks, the asphalt, tuning it... Nothing has worked. Really it's just lost a tick of HSS, but still with monster fade.

Bummer to hear the new stamp S-lines are just as OS. I'd prefer to bag the S- over the C-lines.

rarintal 03-13-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by markbuch (Post 2717900)
If only all manufacturers had customer service like this, answering every single question in this thread. I even accidentally emailed Ryan yesterday when I meant to email a different Ryan here at work and he ended up answering a bunch of questions I had about MD2s and MD3s. Great guy to work with.

I do love how Discmania recognizes and celebrates the differences between different production runs and sells them separately with different descriptions. It makes buying new discs that much easier... but ends up hurting my diminishing PayPal balance :D

Thanks, we just want you guys to have the absolute best chance to reinvent your game and conquer courses.

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Originally Posted by vogurt (Post 2717948)
Seeing this thread is basically the reason I went out and bought 3 FD's 4 PD's 2 P1x's a glow MD3.. CD2..

And since your answered my P2X question... No worries, I already went out and bought 2 172G P-line P2's ;) my pointer finger sits absolutely perfect on that rim. I haven't gotten to putt these yet but I'm thinking they will be my main putter.

You're the bomb. My bag will always consist of Discmania from here on out.

Thanks! we just released full weight P-LINE P2s (most marked with KP2, but all from the same run)

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Originally Posted by McDirty61458 (Post 2719594)
I was wondering if you guys ever thought about making vinyl decal for cars. I know I would love to have a big discmania shield on my back window.

We are always open to new ideas. We will consider it with new products.

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Originally Posted by Jozzz (Post 2722029)
G-line PD2s? Bueller?

I love seeing some of the limited stock discs pop up on your store. I'll definitely be looking to pick up some more glow MD3s, etc. However, there's no way G-PD2s wouldn't be a success. I have a good mix of PD2s in the bag, but I think a G-PD2 (especially a domey one) would be perfect for big s-curve bombs after a little beating in. I have a couple first run euro-open C-PD2s but they took an eternity to get to that point and I would hate to lose them. Additionally it would be nice to have the same disc with a little less HSS. When I bagged destroyers, I went S/DS, champ DS, *D, echo DS in order of stability. It would be nice to be able to do the same with PD2s in premium plastic.

G-PD2s will most likely happen. But it's not high speed season yet. isn't it still winter up in the northern states?

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Originally Posted by pnasalberta (Post 2722509)
What happened to free shipping on the DM store?

We have free shipping every so often on the store. it's not a permanent thing we offer.

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Originally Posted by clard (Post 2722642)
They occasionally do it for special events. It's never been standard.

Correct.

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2722649)
I doubt they would have any opposition to you having one done for yourself. They do own the logo copyrights but I think the free advertisement would be a good trade off.

Feel free to email us about this if you're really serious. Store@discmania.net

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Originally Posted by maskedavenger (Post 2722874)
After throwing X-line for the first time today (P1X), I wonder if it will be rolled out in other molds too? X-P2s are a thing I know, but maybe drivers too if it holds up well. XT PDs would be sick and with that tackyness you could get crazy snap on them too...

We will certainly consider them for future productions.

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2723535)
Does the new flatter run of pd2s have bubbles in the rim? I ordered a couple and they have bubbles, dome and fly just like the previous run. Just making sure I received the correct discs.

yes they still have bubbles in the rim, but the plastic is a little more cloudy and some colors even have a little pearl.

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Originally Posted by Brodysseus (Post 2723556)
XT PDs, yes please.

Think you'll ever make D-line PDs?

We have actually considered both. Do you think D-LINE PDs would be worth wile after 2 rounds and the outside edge is dinged up?

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Originally Posted by Aveksi (Post 2723586)
Mine has bubbles in the rim. The plastic is also much more cloudy compared to a regular JL-plastic but not domey at all. Not nearly as OS as the previous run.

There are some that are domey, but not nearly as domey as the previous run. That is why we name the run "flatter jolly launcher" and not "flat jolly launcher"

Pro tip - Red & Pink are the flattest colors I've seen so far.

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2723592)
Thanks for quick response. That disc does not have the same profile as the ones I received. Mine are exactly like previous run making me think there was a mix up.

the Yellow/Green or dayglow seem to have the higher dome. Remember all PD2s are overstable, some just glide further than others :)

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Originally Posted by Aveksi (Post 2723593)
Which color did you receive? Could you post a picture of your disc?

yes, picture please!

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Originally Posted by Columbia gorge (Post 2723604)
I ordered yellow and yellow- green. I looked at a blue in a local shop and it was as flat as yours. Maybe the blues molded up flatter. I suck at posting pix from my ipad but they are as domey as the previous run.

Most blues were flatter, but Pink and Red were flattest.

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Originally Posted by SpikeHyzer (Post 2723770)
Any chance we will see a P-Line P1x by this summer? I change putter plastic based on temperature. Would love the same mix of p-line that's used in the KP2's to be used on some P1x's.

yes there will be a P-LINE P1x. Yes it will be KC pro material.

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Originally Posted by OB Four (Post 2724617)
question for ryan or anyone else that might have the answer.

I have this c-line pd, cannot figure out which run it is. All I truly know is that it's not a 1st run. It's pretty flat, very stiff, and the plastic is glass clear. I had assumed it was a 6th run based off the description on the discmania site (http://store.discmania.net/index.php...e-pd-flat.html) but I bought one from the site and the plastic was not nearly as stiff or as clear. The disc is yellow and the 6th run I bought is blue. I dunno if the color of plastic would make a difference or not.

Anyone know the run?

TLDR: Anyone know what run my flat, glass-clear, stiff PD is?

Is it lighter? There was a portion of the 5th run that came out flatter but they were all 165-168 and they were pretty beefy. If it's not lighter I would guess 3rd run, but you said it was clear and not pearly it's not that run.

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Originally Posted by Rol6566 (Post 2725021)
Could be 5th run. The 5th were jolly launcher as well

lighter 5th run was my guess.

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Originally Posted by notroman (Post 2725047)
All the 5th runs I've seen were pop top domey. The only flat/clear/stiff PD I've seen was the first run. I have one still in a box somewhere.

Want to sell it? I know a few people on the Discmania Collectors and Throwers page on Facebook that would want it.

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Originally Posted by Rol6566 (Post 2725126)
Those are the 4th. The domey with clear flight plate and opaque rims

Opaque rims came on the 2nd and 4th run. 2nd run has a plus mold rim.

rarintal 03-13-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Um... (Post 2725212)
What is the most true to the flight numbers DD2 that is currently being produced?

I've had several DD2's and I've really wanted to bag one as a compliment to the PD2, but they've been wildly inconsistent for me. The one that flew the closest to the advertised flight was a heavier Blizzard, but it got flippy soon after I got it. I grabbed another one and it was pretty much a roller out of the box. Tried a p-line and it was too flippy. I also have an s-line that flies more OS than my PD2's and I've tried everything to make it more stable, but no luck. Only one I've not tried is a c-line.

I'd love to have a DD2 that starts off with a bit of high speed turn and a nice hard fade. Does that disc exist? Maybe I should look at beating in a p-line PD2 instead?

So the newest S-LINE run is really overstable. The flight numbers are more like 13/5/-1/2 you really need to take the time to beat these ones in and they become your best friend. If you're looking for closest to the flight numbers I would recommend the C-LINE DD2 or Echo S-LINE DD2. If you want one that goes a bit further - look for the 165g blizzard C-LINE DD2. Even Jussi uses this specific blizzard disc. it has a harder feeling compared to the soft spongy feeling rim of newer blizzard discs.


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Originally Posted by skizzle34 (Post 2725592)
I had 2 echo star DD2s and when I ordered them I asked for the highest PLH possible to make sure they were a little more stable. One of them was pretty much a destroyer mild turn followed by healthy fade and the other was like a katana where it would turn over released on a hyzer angle. I am still wishing they would make a disc in between the DD2 and PD2!

Try our newest S-LINE DD2 with the new stamp design.

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Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 2725937)
I'd definitely try the C-line. In my bag I keep 2 C-line and 1 Echo S-Line as my main distance drivers. The flight is exactly what you're describing for me when thrown on a slight hyzer.



In stability that would be a DD, though it isn't quite as fast.

nice one :hfive:

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Originally Posted by skizzle34 (Post 2726042)
The DD for me was a weird tweener between my PD and destroyers. It was just slightly faster and maybe 10-15 longer in average than my PD but less comfortable to throw and slower with about 30-40ft less distance potential than my destroyers. I just want a discmania destroyer!

I would recommend trying to find a domey S-LINE DD. It's more like a more dependable but still offers the glide you're looking for.

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Originally Posted by SpikeHyzer (Post 2726600)
I've had bum luck with the DD2(S-Line) lately The two S-Line's(New Stamp) I picked up recently were more overstable than my bubble rim C-PD2's. Anybody else have the same experience? I might try a C-Line to see if they fit the bill.

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying :)

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Originally Posted by Um... (Post 2726620)
Heck yes! I have an old stamp S-line that is more OS than some of my PD2's and I've tried all sorts of things to try and make that disc less stable. Trimming flashing, throwing it directly into trees, rocks, the asphalt, tuning it... Nothing has worked. Really it's just lost a tick of HSS, but still with monster fade.

Bummer to hear the new stamp S-lines are just as OS. I'd prefer to bag the S- over the C-lines.

The newest S-LINES are really firm. if you can find a soft feeling S-LINE DD2 that's exactly disc you're looking for to get further down the fairway and create a helix type flight.


Thanks for all the questions guys!
Cheers,
Ryan

Brodysseus 03-13-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rarintal (Post 2726713)
We have actually considered both. Do you think D-LINE PDs would be worth wile after 2 rounds and the outside edge is dinged up?

Absolutely, other 1.9 sized rim discs hold up well and have a good life cycle in DX (Firebird, Viking, Valkyrie). I'd buy a stack of 10 D-Line PDs the day they came out.

Mocheez 03-13-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysseus (Post 2726866)
Absolutely, other 1.9 sized rim discs hold up well and have a good life cycle in DX (Firebird, Viking, Valkyrie). I'd buy a stack of 10 D-Line PDs the day they came out.

I would buy 2 stacks of 10 (20 total).

Brodysseus 03-13-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mocheez (Post 2726922)
I would buy 2 stacks of 10 (20 total).

There's 30 right there, how many would you need total to do a run for us?


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