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DinosaurThunder 08-16-2017 07:52 AM

The DD is just like the FD2 in my mind - a forgotten mold. If I didn't hoard about 12 old stock s-line DD's I would be hurting right now. Great controlled forehand disc! Surprised people throw the PD2 over the DD given the average arm speed of most players. If the course is in the woods or needs placement fairway shots I bring out the DD's. If the course is longer and I need that extra distance, I disc up to the destroyer.

dehaas 08-16-2017 08:06 AM

I've got a couple of orange fd2s in the 160s that are relatively flat. Awesome forehand disc, only issue with it is I've got a flat color glow firebird that I can mash on it as hard I want and it won't go over 300. It's also weird in it doesn't want to skip, just crashes and tumbles. If I hit the fd2 with close to full power it straightens out for like 85% of its flight then has its fade...which leads to blowing by the basket. For me it's just easier to gauge a beefy firebird.

Quinntastic 08-16-2017 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dehaas (Post 3212656)
I've got a couple of orange fd2s in the 160s that are relatively flat. Awesome forehand disc, only issue with it is I've got a flat color glow firebird that I can mash on it as hard I want and it won't go over 300. It's also weird in it doesn't want to skip, just crashes and tumbles. If I hit the fd2 with close to full power it straightens out for like 85% of its flight then has its fade...which leads to blowing by the basket. For me it's just easier to gauge a beefy firebird.



I'm betting if you stepped up to a 170 you'd get more of the flight you want. Fd2 was plenty stable for me in higher weights, but yes more forward penetrating fade then a firebird. FD3 took my firebird slot real quick as well tho.


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gerth_vader 08-16-2017 01:07 PM

My flat fd2 is a 4/10 now and struggling to finds its niche in my bag. It has become a very straight fh disc but not many holes call for that shot. The pd and firebird are so money when powered down about the only shot left the fd2 has on lock is the low ceiling os mid shots, 250-290 right to left hole. It's also very handy at chip shots on those wide open windy holes, being easier to gauge than a gator at 150. I call it a gap driver cause it fits between my spider and jackel so well. I can never take it out though because it feels great. Love the beefy confidence inspiring profile and the unique combo of true forehand hss and relatively small amount of low speed fade. This is the number one disc in my bag for the "what did you just throw" comment from strangers because of laser srraight, surgically precise, flip up forehands! Now hopefully a new run of flat ones come out. I would pay extra just like the ring of gators.....no problem

Turbo Billy 08-16-2017 11:23 PM

I have never seen a discmania disc in ecostar (e-line?) plastic. This thread is mostly "can I have this is this plastic" but I'm curious if Innova would ever work with discmania on that. Of course I haven't seen much Innova ecostar plastic lately either. Given the unpopularity of several g-line discmania molds, would you ever consider running anything in e-line?

Flick Maniac 08-17-2017 02:07 AM

I am 99,9% certain the only DM disc ever produced in Echostar were the DD2 Frenzys when they first came out. Marked ES-DD2

New013 08-17-2017 02:43 AM

I've always liked echo star plastic. It has that glidey pro plastic flight.

DinosaurThunder 08-17-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by New013 (Post 3213014)
I've always liked echo star plastic. It has that glidey pro plastic flight.

Ehco FD's, DD's and CD3's would be rad.

Quinntastic 08-17-2017 03:20 PM

Just found echo Star is going OOP


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trustfund kitty 08-21-2017 02:42 AM

Any more updates on when the production p line p2s are dropping?

New013 08-21-2017 07:23 AM

...and these PMD3's...

https://memecrunch.com/meme/4HIK1/5-....png?w=400&c=1

Discmania_Support 08-21-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smarkquart (Post 3212342)
I understand, but it is still sad to hear. I swear by the G-DD; while a few feet shorter than my main distance driver (by another company), when I do not feel confident with that other driver, either because of wind or just having a bad grip/ release point day, I totally trust my G-DDs. Always reliable and does exactly what I want it to do every time.

I have five right now, two black, two yellow, and a green, but with the lack of availability, it still feels like I do not have enough.

Side note #1; I never gel with any other G or GStars, but the G-PD is awesome as well. You need more yellows, and definitely a run of white. Most of the other colors I have been seeing are muted and dark, making them hard to see on the ground.

Side note #2; the teaser picture of the C-PDx I keep seeing is a milky white, the exact color I am looking for. I cannot get my hands on one though.

I definitely think there should be quite a few G-DD's out there that people got in their mystery boxes that should be willing to trade with you. The G-DD is definitely a great disc and just wasn't the hottest seller so it is hard to justify sinking such a large investment into something that won't sell. Shoot us an email at the Discmania Store some time and I bet we can help you out.

G-Line and G-Star plastic is almost nonexistent in any sort of white color and has been since the beginning, as you may be aware. There have only been a handful of test releases on the Innova Proshop site that had some white but that is really it for those. Not a single white G-Line disc has come in or out of here despite our efforts. We will keep trying.

That particular PDx was sent to Europe for their release and they sold those clear ones at the same time we did. Unfortunately we only had reds, blues, yellows, and some purple to sell.

Stevo 08-23-2017 02:46 PM

Just got my Luster FD3 and glow CD2 in... Any verdict on how these fly vs their C-line counterparts? My luster PD seemed to fit right in between a swirly S-PD and 10th run C-PD

turniphead 08-24-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by trustfund kitty (Post 3214001)
Any more updates on when the production p line p2s are dropping?

In dealing with an order earlier in the week, the guy who I went back and forth with (via email) told me they're running Eagle P-Line P2s this week. Probably yesterday from the sounds of it. I didn't really pry enough to say whether to expect non-Eagle P-Lines or not, but I would love to hear they ran those too. Don't get me wrong, I like the Eagle stamp a lot, but I don't particularly want to pay $20 a pop for a stack of practice putters.

I can't believe how silky-smooth the white run in those Eagle P2s feels, I am addicted. Need. More. Now.

unclevince 08-27-2017 05:14 PM

Are lusters going into regular production? I have an FD3 on its way that is supposedly luster but has the regular stock c line stamp.

Flick Maniac 08-28-2017 04:25 AM

I think you ought to be able to tell by the plastic alone. I dont think Luster has a special stamp or pen to distinguish (other than the DM store mini extra stamp of some of them)

Discmania_Support 08-29-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by trustfund kitty (Post 3214001)
Any more updates on when the production p line p2s are dropping?

These will be coming soon. We have had a high volume of jobs to accomplish for the MD4 release and store restock. This is definitely something that is high on the priority list for us.

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Originally Posted by Flick Maniac (Post 3213012)
I am 99,9% certain the only DM disc ever produced in Echostar were the DD2 Frenzys when they first came out. Marked ES-DD2

You are correct in that statement. The DD2 was the only Echostar disc to be made and were fantastic. These will likely be the only ones ever made too.

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Originally Posted by gerth_vader (Post 3212769)
My flat fd2 is a 4/10 now and struggling to finds its niche in my bag. It has become a very straight fh disc but not many holes call for that shot. The pd and firebird are so money when powered down about the only shot left the fd2 has on lock is the low ceiling os mid shots, 250-290 right to left hole. It's also very handy at chip shots on those wide open windy holes, being easier to gauge than a gator at 150. I call it a gap driver cause it fits between my spider and jackel so well. I can never take it out though because it feels great. Love the beefy confidence inspiring profile and the unique combo of true forehand hss and relatively small amount of low speed fade. This is the number one disc in my bag for the "what did you just throw" comment from strangers because of laser srraight, surgically precise, flip up forehands! Now hopefully a new run of flat ones come out. I would pay extra just like the ring of gators.....no problem

The flat FD2 is something we have searched for ever since. The mold itself is not very conducive to flat production runs and naturally turns out flat like they have. When we have made such a thing, I guarantee you the world will know :)

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Originally Posted by DinosaurThunder (Post 3212653)
The DD is just like the FD2 in my mind - a forgotten mold. If I didn't hoard about 12 old stock s-line DD's I would be hurting right now. Great controlled forehand disc! Surprised people throw the PD2 over the DD given the average arm speed of most players. If the course is in the woods or needs placement fairway shots I bring out the DD's. If the course is longer and I need that extra distance, I disc up to the destroyer.

I think the reason folks switch over to the PD2 is because the DD has gotten so much more overstable over the years and we have been working hard to rectify that production. The latest version is much cleaner and will likely be back to how they used to be, or close to it. There are plenty of the Hysteria versions online, as well as a handful of 2nd runs, that are exactly what people need in a DD.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Billy (Post 3212989)
I have never seen a discmania disc in ecostar (e-line?) plastic. This thread is mostly "can I have this is this plastic" but I'm curious if Innova would ever work with discmania on that. Of course I haven't seen much Innova ecostar plastic lately either. Given the unpopularity of several g-line discmania molds, would you ever consider running anything in e-line?

Unfortunately Echostar plastic will no longer be available and we have no plans to run anything other than the original DD2 that was once made. You have a valid point there and we do agree that G-Line plastic needs a bit of a makeover and is not as popular as people believe it should be. Glow plastic will be your best bet and the recent runs of all molds have been simply amazing.

Discmania_Support 08-29-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo (Post 3214923)
Just got my Luster FD3 and glow CD2 in... Any verdict on how these fly vs their C-line counterparts? My luster PD seemed to fit right in between a swirly S-PD and 10th run C-PD

Good questions. The Luster FD3 is actually much more understable than the C-Line version and are fantastic. The Glow CD2 is pretty much the same as the C-Line but offers a tremendous amount of grip and is flatter than most normal ones that have been made. Both discs are seriously great.

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Originally Posted by turniphead (Post 3215289)
In dealing with an order earlier in the week, the guy who I went back and forth with (via email) told me they're running Eagle P-Line P2s this week. Probably yesterday from the sounds of it. I didn't really pry enough to say whether to expect non-Eagle P-Lines or not, but I would love to hear they ran those too. Don't get me wrong, I like the Eagle stamp a lot, but I don't particularly want to pay $20 a pop for a stack of practice putters.

I can't believe how silky-smooth the white run in those Eagle P2s feels, I am addicted. Need. More. Now.

They are coming. We got bogged down with a bunch of other tasks that had hard deadlines and the P-P2 needed to wait for a bit. This week will be a good opportunity to get that done. I will say that Eagle P2's will still emerge first but stock versions will follow shortly after.

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Originally Posted by unclevince (Post 3216095)
Are lusters going into regular production? I have an FD3 on its way that is supposedly luster but has the regular stock c line stamp.

Luster plastic will never go into full production. What you have there is how all future specialty plastics will be represented. We have our stock stamp design that is accompanied by the appropriate design to show you what the type of plastic is.

uphoric 09-07-2017 01:41 PM

In effort to pair down my bag I would like to move from destroyers to pd2s. I was wondering if there is a way to identify understable PD2's. I have two 175G S-Line PD2's that are very different from each other. One is an overtable monster (300' flat maybe) and the other I can get some reliable distance out of (400'+).

I have been throwing destroyers and found the same thing with them. after buying close to 20 * and champ destoyers, I found that low dome and low wing discs are more undesrtable. I can roughly fill slots in my bag using these characteristics.

Is there a similar stability id process for PD2's?

ILUVSMGS18 09-07-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by uphoric (Post 3219714)
In effort to pair down my bag I would like to move from destroyers to pd2s. I was wondering if there is a way to identify understable PD2's. I have two 175G S-Line PD2's that are very different from each other. One is an overtable monster (300' flat maybe) and the other I can get some reliable distance out of (400'+).

I have been throwing destroyers and found the same thing with them. after buying close to 20 * and champ destoyers, I found that low dome and low wing discs are more undesrtable. I can roughly fill slots in my bag using these characteristics.

Is there a similar stability id process for PD2's?


The PD2 is DM's anyhyzer top on a Destroyer bottom BTW. With every disc the lower wing results in more understability and typically high dome discs have more glide but are also more OS. Good luck finding an US PD2 though either a G-PD2 or P-PD2 should be a good start.

DanJon 09-08-2017 01:48 AM

I thought PD2 was Excal wing.

discerdoo 09-08-2017 02:30 AM

Was at PIAS in Norman, OK today when a shipment arrived with some new stock runs of p-line P2's.

Jenga54 09-08-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSMGS18 (Post 3219731)
The PD2 is DM's anyhyzer top on a Destroyer bottom BTW. With every disc the lower wing results in more understability and typically high dome discs have more glide but are also more OS. Good luck finding an US PD2 though either a G-PD2 or P-PD2 should be a good start.

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Originally Posted by DanJon (Post 3219909)
I thought PD2 was Excal wing.

Same bottom on all of them different tops

ian.w 09-10-2017 08:19 AM

Is anyone else disappointed with the plus rim of the new md4? I wish they had made this known.

UhhNegative 09-14-2017 04:34 PM

Anyone know when the next run of S-line CD2s are coming out? My wallet is ready.

jskew113 09-15-2017 11:53 PM

Where are the P-Line MD3s?

I'm down to my last fresh prototype run...

Jenga54 09-15-2017 11:54 PM

S P3X are out!! Mmmmm

mgamache8 09-16-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenga54 (Post 3222240)
S P3X are out!! Mmmmm

I just ordered 2. What's the verdict on them? Similar to the md4 and fd3 in that it's OS but not super overstable? Is it literally a BBAviar3 or is that just the comparison people are throwing out there? I really am just looking for any and all info on this mold

ian.w 09-16-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mgamache8 (Post 3222423)
Is it literally a BBAviar3 or is that just the comparison people are throwing out there?

I have no idea, but the Omega3 is literally an aviar3 with small bead, so it makes sense that eventually they'd make a BBaviar3.

Flick Maniac 09-17-2017 03:06 AM

All of the above are pretty spot on, I would say.

Anthony_G 09-18-2017 03:32 PM

Any ideas of when the next run of D-Line P3's are coming out? I need more putters!

Jenga54 09-18-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony_G (Post 3222890)
Any ideas of when the next run of D-Line P3's are coming out? I need more putters!

I've got a first run for you, brand new.

Anthony_G 09-18-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenga54 (Post 3222892)
I've got a first run for you, brand new.

I don't like the first runs. :\

Jenga54 09-18-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony_G (Post 3222896)
I don't like the first runs. :\

I was hoping you would be the one

Quinntastic 09-18-2017 03:50 PM

Saw a fresh stock of d line at gggt last week


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Jenga54 09-18-2017 03:53 PM

btw... if anyone needs a P3X I got the goods...

Anthony_G 09-18-2017 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=Quinntastic;3222905]Saw a fresh stock of d line at gggt last week

The ebay store? Just looked and only saw a couple lighter ones.

Discmania_Support 09-18-2017 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jskew113 (Post 3222239)
Where are the P-Line MD3s?

I'm down to my last fresh prototype run...

The P-MD3 will be in store very soon. :)

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Originally Posted by UhhNegative (Post 3221768)
Anyone know when the next run of S-line CD2s are coming out? My wallet is ready.

S-Line CD2 will most likely not be made again until next year. The glow ones are very similar to the swirl version and I would highly recommend that you check them out, they are amazing!

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Originally Posted by ian.w (Post 3220416)
Is anyone else disappointed with the plus rim of the new md4? I wish they had made this known.

The MD4 actually does not have a plus mold. They have the same bottom as the MD3 does and those are not plus molds either.

Discmania_Support 09-18-2017 05:20 PM

These will need to be made. The first run version did not move very fast and some come back every time we make an order for more of them. I would say that all of which will be available again by the end of the year most likely but some of our latest projects have used up some valuable production time getting new molds made.

Quinntastic 09-18-2017 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=Anthony_G;3222910]
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Originally Posted by Quinntastic (Post 3222905)
Saw a fresh stock of d line at gggt last week



The ebay store? Just looked and only saw a couple lighter ones.



No, they sell through amazon though, and if you call them they are more then happy to accommodate color and weight best they can


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