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TheOtherBill 05-03-2020 09:40 PM

Also, Dash's Track has re-opened so expect many more aces from that shorter technical course.

markmcc 05-07-2020 10:17 PM

Brodie just posted his Mile Challenge video. He was throwing with a stiff cross/tailwind and was consistently throwing over 500', with two over 600' (with a big parking lot skip). He can get them out there. It will be interesting to see if he can pull it all together when the tour fires up again, because he is putting great as well.

DanJon 05-07-2020 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOtherBill (Post 3582056)
McCord #16 is almost exactly the same throw as #13. It also has a hillside back-stop to prevent the ace run from getting too far away. I play a skip shot off the hill in front. I've hit the underside of the basket before and saw a drive bounce off the top just the other day.
Not much reason to take multiple shots at McCord. It plays fast so you can just go around again.
Plus Cubby, god bless him, did not try to make a living off playing disc golf...would be a bad look for Brodie to count mulligans as aces.


Ricky has a video where he had multiple throw "aces" at a short course.

Is that a bad look for him?

mizunodave 05-07-2020 11:27 PM

If you toss out those two parking lot slide jobs his average throw was 516 feet. With a significant tail wind but still very respectable. Enough distance to get the job done. The next challenge will be learning to control that power. Figuring out how to throw 500 feet wild doesn't grant a scoring advantage over throwing 400 accurately. Still a lot of fun I imagine :D

TheOtherBill 05-08-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DanJon (Post 3583931)
Ricky has a video where he had multiple throw "aces" at a short course.

Is that a bad look for him?

Yes, it would be - if he was keeping score as a training round like Brodie, was taking multiple throws and promoting them as actual aces.

Emoney 05-08-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOtherBill (Post 3584020)
Yes, it would be - if he was keeping score as a training round like Brodie, was taking multiple throws and promoting them as actual aces.

We talkin bout practice......practice.

Lol what a petty post from you.

DiscFifty 05-08-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOtherBill (Post 3584020)
Yes, it would be - if he was keeping score as a training round like Brodie, was taking multiple throws and promoting them as actual aces.

We don't know if he did take multiple shots and promote it as an ace do we? But on the other hand we have this..."Simon Lizotte gets the FIRST DOUBLE FollowFlight on his Double Ace! | SHOWMEZ | Jomez Disc Golf".


TheOtherBill 05-08-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3584047)
We talkin bout practice......practice.

Lol what a petty post from you.

Nearly as petty as opining about supposed pettiness from you!

Ok Kardashian sister, now it's your turn. :rolleyes:

brutalbrutus 05-23-2020 10:42 PM


DiscFifty 05-24-2020 05:40 AM

For reference, Brodie shooting -5 @ Old Man is typically a 1000+ rated round. His short game is on point.

Bigtex 05-24-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3589669)
For reference, Brodie shooting -5 @ Old Man is typically a 1000+ rated round. His short game is on point.

If shooting -5 at Old Man is a 1000+ rated round then what would https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_dnOKIJjo0 this be considered. It's not that impressive imo

dreadlock86 05-24-2020 08:10 AM

that would be considered a different layout

the course plays a bit tougher than it used to after record rain and flooding wrecked the park one spring. the city added a new walking and biking path before reopening the park and the course lost a few holes. the DD Carrollton (Lewisville, at the time) guys redesigned the course and the four new holes play much tougher than the ones that were lost.

that said, 5 down sounded pretty mediocre for 1000 but the last 2 years of tourney results confirms that. IIRC, a lot of those events have been during fairly adverse weather conditions, for NTX anyway.


if you're watching that video, holes 8-9 and 11-12 are gone. hole 15 goes the opposite direction now and plays tougher; fun hole. the tee for hole 1 is now where basket 8 used to be, the pads have moved slightly on 5, 7, 10, 14. the new holes play into the woods to the left of hole 16 and everything is rerouted and renumbered after hole 7. hole 14 is now 18.

Nick Pacific 05-25-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3589669)
For reference, Brodie shooting -5 @ Old Man is typically a 1000+ rated round. His short game is on point.

His putting skill in the short amount of time he's been playing is absolutely incredible. I'd have to imagine a lot of that is crossover hand eye coordination from a lifetime of frisbee throwing, in addition to a ton of practice he's been doing obviously. Yea he can bomb 500 feet already but he's also 6'5 200 + and strong, to me his skill in the short game that he's picked up in 6 months is much more impressive. Usually the big guys who are new and can throw a mile right out the gate often struggle with putting for years before they get good.

Casey 1988 05-25-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3589848)
His putting skill in the short amount of time he's been playing is absolutely incredible. I'd have to imagine a lot of that is crossover hand eye coordination from a lifetime of frisbee throwing, in addition to a ton of practice he's been doing obviously. Yea he can bomb 500 feet already but he's also 6'5 200 + and strong, to me his skill in the short game that he's picked up in 6 months is much more impressive. Usually the big guys who are new and can throw a mile right out the gate often struggle with putting for years before they get good.

If he is not using a Rattler as his putter/approach disc, Brodie Is missing out.

Ryan P. 05-25-2020 01:46 PM


wolfhaley 05-25-2020 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey 1988 (Post 3589850)
If he is not using a Rattler as his putter/approach disc, Brodie Is missing out.

He seems to be doing just fine with the Roach.

Casey 1988 05-25-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfhaley (Post 3589926)
He seems to be doing just fine with the Roach.

Yes good this will keep the mold in production for players rather then drop it for the Luna as Discraft seems to cater only to pro players and not what the market needs are OS Discraft Fairway not existent, so goo it will be not just Luna and having to pay$$$$$ for premium plastic, we will have the Roach for awhile still in Big Z for those who want a Big Z Luna for throwing but are not willing to pay $$$$ for such a disc.

Bigtex 05-25-2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadlock86 (Post 3589683)
that would be considered a different layout

the course plays a bit tougher than it used to after record rain and flooding wrecked the park one spring. the city added a new walking and biking path before reopening the park and the course lost a few holes. the DD Carrollton (Lewisville, at the time) guys redesigned the course and the four new holes play much tougher than the ones that were lost.

that said, 5 down sounded pretty mediocre for 1000 but the last 2 years of tourney results confirms that. IIRC, a lot of those events have been during fairly adverse weather conditions, for NTX anyway.


if you're watching that video, holes 8-9 and 11-12 are gone. hole 15 goes the opposite direction now and plays tougher; fun hole. the tee for hole 1 is now where basket 8 used to be, the pads have moved slightly on 5, 7, 10, 14. the new holes play into the woods to the left of hole 16 and everything is rerouted and renumbered after hole 7. hole 14 is now 18.

I've played the new layout. It's still not impressive. the new holes are just as easy as the old holes.

medic5888 05-25-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey 1988 (Post 3589946)
Yes good this will keep the mold in production for players rather then drop it for the Luna as Discraft seems to cater only to pro players and not what the market needs are OS Discraft Fairway not existent, so goo it will be not just Luna and having to pay$$$$$ for premium plastic, we will have the Roach for awhile still in Big Z for those who want a Big Z Luna for throwing but are not willing to pay $$$$ for such a disc.

OS discraft fairway drivers predator, raptor, anax…….

Casey 1988 05-25-2020 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by medic5888 (Post 3590002)
OS discraft fairway drivers predator, raptor, anax…….

speed 9 I know the speed, I said speed 6-7 fairway Specifically. Discraft is loosing that market of OS Fairaway driver speed 6-7, 9 is not quite a fairway disc as Discraft as the more modern discs made after 2010 are what most other brands call speed 10 slow distance driver in wing width due to company starting at speed 2 for discs how do I know look at the wing width online on the PDGA legal discs, and then look at the companies speed of discs. Discraft used to have a few discs in that speed 6-7 well more 7 speed, XL in more OS premium plastics and Cyclone-X. How did those two discs disappear? I get the XS due to odd rims but the XL in antyhing other then Pro D? that was a well made disc with blunter nose then most fairway drivers. DGA a side company of Discraft has a few before they were stopped. I know that Dynamic Discs calls speed 9 fairway but to be honest, the width of the discs at that speed are like a fast 7 to 8 speed disc from almost all other companies save for maybe Westside Discs.

I know the chart says these discs should be Fairway in what you say but they just ran out of room. Does that logic make the Speed 9 Heat the one of the widest rim discs Discraft makes just because it it so high up on the chart? Nope the Heat was pushed up due to the way the Discraft Logo gets in the way of where the discs should be in the Discraft line up.

DiscFifty 05-26-2020 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtex (Post 3589999)
I've played the new layout. It's still not impressive. the new holes are just as easy as the old holes.

That's awesome. Sign up and play the flex starts or the tournament out here and win some cash.

dreadlock86 05-26-2020 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtex (Post 3589999)
I've played the new layout. It's still not impressive. the new holes are just as easy as the old holes.


:rolleyes:


cool story, dude

aredoubles 05-26-2020 08:04 AM

Can any locals comment on how good of a round this is? What would it have been rated?


dreadlock86 05-27-2020 01:04 AM

i haven't watched these but 49-51 seems to be the range for a 1000 rated round.

i don't know how many holes they're calling par 4, probably 3 of them. so his 11 down is a 46? that's a good score but it's also a casual round in what looks like absolutely perfect conditions, no wind.

Emoney 05-27-2020 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey 1988 (Post 3590022)
but the XL in antyhing other then Pro D?

Im pretty sure if there were a market for 6-7 speed OS, discraft would try and produce it.

Sunking has ESP, ESP swirl, and Big Z XL for sale...................

Discraft doesnt need anything right now. They are on fire. That is a gap in your bag, not everyones.

Get a Raptor and throw your mids harder, that fixes the "gap" in your lineup.

Ryan P. 05-27-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey 1988 (Post 3590022)
speed 9 I know the speed, I said speed 6-7 fairway Specifically. Discraft is loosing that market of OS Fairaway driver speed 6-7, 9 is not quite a fairway disc as Discraft as the more modern discs made after 2010 are what most other brands call speed 10 slow distance driver in wing width due to company starting at speed 2 for discs how do I know look at the wing width online on the PDGA legal discs, and then look at the companies speed of discs. Discraft used to have a few discs in that speed 6-7 well more 7 speed, XL in more OS premium plastics and Cyclone-X. How did those two discs disappear? I get the XS due to odd rims but the XL in antyhing other then Pro D? that was a well made disc with blunter nose then most fairway drivers. DGA a side company of Discraft has a few before they were stopped. I know that Dynamic Discs calls speed 9 fairway but to be honest, the width of the discs at that speed are like a fast 7 to 8 speed disc from almost all other companies save for maybe Westside Discs.

I know the chart says these discs should be Fairway in what you say but they just ran out of room. Does that logic make the Speed 9 Heat the one of the widest rim discs Discraft makes just because it it so high up on the chart? Nope the Heat was pushed up due to the way the Discraft Logo gets in the way of where the discs should be in the Discraft line up.

You're such a goober casey. Hardly anyone I've ever met throws those discs. How many people do you know that bag one of these discs?

GoobyPls 05-27-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan P. (Post 3590455)
You're such a goober casey. Hardly anyone I've ever met throws those discs. How many people do you know that bag one of these discs?

I have a Resistor I'll throw in the bag if I don't want to risk losing a Firebird. Other than that, I don't think I've ever seen any of those in the wild

wolfhaley 05-27-2020 02:08 PM

I bag a Spark, Banshee or Trident. But I agree that powering down a Firebird works the same. The Trident is OOP and the Spark might be too because no one throws them.

BryanC 05-27-2020 02:24 PM

I've thrown a Kaxe and a Banshee and know others who still throw them. I replaced the Kaxe with a Gila, which is definitely a different and slower disc, but it gets the job done for me now anyway. Firebird works better than a Banshee for me when I need something faster than the Gila.

wims 05-27-2020 05:55 PM

I'm bagging the Spark. I currently got 3 Sparks in my bag

brutalbrutus 05-27-2020 07:15 PM

I bag a Relay, Crave and two Resistors. Relay is an FR and fairly broken in. Not super flippy but handles pretty much all of my US duties from 200-300. The Crave is an FR and pretty much dead straight nowadays. Rounding out the first run goodness is a beat to hell FR Resistor is basically what a new Crave would be but with little to no glide and a newer sparkle proton Resistor for utility and FHs. All three of FR discs get used a lot, the beefy resistor would get more use if I could throw more FHs but my bum shoulder doesn't allow for more than a couple in a round.

I think a lot of people in today's game prefer faster mids than the slower fairways. I prefer to work a fairway.

wolfhaley 05-27-2020 07:40 PM

Same here. I carry a lot of fairways but I've been working in more mids this year. I used to only bag 2 mids, now I'm up to 4. This has just cut into my high speed drivers though, can't seem to part with my fairways.

Bigtex 05-27-2020 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadlock86 (Post 3590043)
:rolleyes:


cool story, dude

if you have a decent FH the new holes are easy birdies. Meet me at Old Man this Saturday. I'll show you the local routes.

DiscFifty 05-28-2020 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtex (Post 3590776)
if you have a decent FH the new holes are easy birdies. Meet me at Old Man this Saturday. I'll show you the local routes.

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Originally Posted by dreadlock86 (Post 3590043)
:rolleyes:


cool story, dude

Gets even cooler. Nice. 1000 rated rounds for everyone out there at old man.

ILUVSMGS18 05-28-2020 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3590443)
Discraft doesnt need anything right now. They are on fire. That is a gap in your bag, not everyones.

Pro-D/X/JB Wasps beg to be made and sold by the thousands.

Emoney 05-28-2020 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSMGS18 (Post 3590795)
Pro-D/X/JB Wasps beg to be made and sold by the thousands.

So they can sit on shelves? I don't think most newer golfers cycle mids. The current limited premium Wasps don't sell very well.

The Wasp coming out in JB every now and then almost fills the demand. Most importantly, it doesn't step on the toes of the Malta.

Paul said the production run Malta are not as OS, have you tried one? Thoughts?

Nick Pacific 05-28-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSMGS18 (Post 3590795)
Pro-D/X/JB Wasps beg to be made and sold by the thousands.

X Wasps are awesome. Bag one for my winter bag and have 3 sitting around in case I lose one. Lucky enough to pick them up many years ago at 12 or so bucks each. They are a lot more OS out of the box compared to the JB. My X wasp has survived at least 6 winters now without breaking, something none of my pro rocs could do, they are summer discs now.

Ryan P. 05-28-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GoobyPls (Post 3590489)
I have a Resistor I'll throw in the bag if I don't want to risk losing a Firebird. Other than that, I don't think I've ever seen any of those in the wild

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Originally Posted by wolfhaley (Post 3590594)
I bag a Spark, Banshee or Trident. But I agree that powering down a Firebird works the same. The Trident is OOP and the Spark might be too because no one throws them.

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Originally Posted by BryanC (Post 3590605)
I've thrown a Kaxe and a Banshee and know others who still throw them. I replaced the Kaxe with a Gila, which is definitely a different and slower disc, but it gets the job done for me now anyway. Firebird works better than a Banshee for me when I need something faster than the Gila.

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Originally Posted by wims (Post 3590675)
I'm bagging the Spark. I currently got 3 Sparks in my bag

Please don't miss my point. It wasn't that no one throws these discs. It was that these discs are less commonly thrown, and therefore Discraft doesn't see a need to make the model. I'm aware there are people throwing these discs. Otherwise they wouldn't be listed on the flight chart.

Jolt 05-28-2020 09:53 AM

Brodie really makes alot of sense in Foundation DiscGolf latest "Grip Locked 2.17" video

dreadlock86 05-28-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtex (Post 3590776)
if you have a decent FH the new holes are easy birdies. Meet me at Old Man this Saturday. I'll show you the local routes.


yeah, i've been playing there 12 years. i know the routes


reasonable statements:
"i don't like the course"
"i don't like the new layout"
"i don't like the new holes"
"the new holes are not that difficult for me"


ridiculous statements:
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Originally Posted by Bigtex (Post 3589999)
the new holes are just as easy as the old holes.


i'm supposed to take it seriously when you say that 3 of the most wooded holes on the course are just as easy as some of the easiest holes on the old layout? hole 8 was by far the easiest on the course. 11 and 12 were basic as long as you didn't have a tree directly in front of your putt. 9 was the toughest of the RIP holes and new 12 is comparable but the gap is way further down the fairway, the fairway is way more narrow, and the road is on the tougher side (for BH).


so y'know what? i'd love to see you throw some easy birdies this Saturday. you let me know what time and i'll bring my camera.


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