It is rather humorous how MVP operates sometimes. I've heard lots of talk for several years about how MVP needs a meathook putter... but I don't seem to recall once hearing anybody say they wanted a Harp copy gyro disc, lol...

cuz i got an ion

lol but they want feedback

:doh:

what good is feedback if you dont listen to it

Tried a mvp Axis today. I was looking for a buzzz replacement and i found it. It immediately kicked the matrix out the bag. I dont know why i never tried it until now.
Sorry wallet. Time to grab a few

Nice what plastic and weight did you get? Or did you just try a buddies?

It was a new heavy(177g) neutron dayglo.
I have been throwing a buzzz for 8yrs or so before i switched. The first throw with it felt familiar.
It is fast/far like a buzzz. Holds a line like a buzzz and powers down similarly.

270ft-340ft range

An axis kicked out your matrix? As someone who throws both, I don't fully understand how they are similar at all.

They are not similar(never said that) but i was searching for a mid i felt comfortable with. Vector wasnt for me and the matrix was the next mid i tried. Couldnt get consistent flights for me. So tried an axis. Love it.
No more matrix.

Looks like a more overstable Envy to me which sounds great. I'm not sure MVP can make a gyro Zone. That might have to be a Streamline mold b/c I don't think the overmold plastic is slick enough for really good skips and that's a significant feature of the Zone.