I guess it depends on the price. I like how it looks/feels but I don't throw it because I know I won't find a replacement and my stash of 3rd runs is enough to hold me over for a while.

What are first run C-PDs going for these days? 10/10 could be 9/10 not sure if there's storage wear.

+1 on the D and XT PDs! As king as they mold up flat I would buy several. That would fill a hole I currently have in the bag..

Ohhhhhhhh, and XFDs too!!!

I'm not in vinyl decal business... 😊 what I meant, get a high resolution shield stamp image and take it somewhere where they can put it on whatever product you want.

Copyright issue does exist, but if it is a single guy doing a single item for their own enjoyment, I know I would not really mind if I was the copyright owner.

I used to do this back in the day to make custom band tshirts and didnot feel I was doing anythibg wrong since they were just for me and not for sale.

Looking at the DM website, why do the c line p2s have a different flight rating than the p line. im not sure if it a mistake where the p3 numbers ended up on the p2 or if it is actually that drastically different. specifically looking at the factory seconds.
Also-FINALLY max weight p2s-THANK YOU DM

The c-line is significantly more over stable than the base plastics versions, and happily manufacturers have been acknowledging that with updated flight ratings

Yea, the C-P2 definitely fade harder than the S or D lines i have thrown. The D and S can have some turn when thrown hard, the C seems to hold the line longer before fading

Does Jussi have any input during the designing of molds or is that all up to DaveD?

Thanks!

Those who have read this thread or anything about Discmania know Jussi (and the Discmania staff) have ALL the input on mold design.

X-P1x in white please. (Bonus for mini store stamp.) Will buy at least 6 - 10. :)

Stoked for P Line P1x.

Not according to a few posters around here that "work" at innova -- all DaveD. That's why I asked, as I was wondering if they actually know what they are talking about.

I always thought the PD was Jussi's baby but was told that Dave is responsible for all the design.

Pretty sure that Jussi said in the interview they did with him in Disc Golfer that Dave does the design, but the Discmania guys do a lot of testing and consulting; either way they make some great discs, they've slowly been taking over my bag (however, gyro also holds a few slots).

So the first day of spring is Friday, and I'll reask the same question:

Any ideas on when the Lite Basket will be available here in the US? I've been holding off on spending money on a few other baskets because I really think the Lite is going to be awesome! I'd just love to get some idea on a time frame so I can start planning around purchasing one.

will there be any runs of flat s-line pd2s?

It's a mutual collaboration. Discmania discs as they have come to be would not have turned out that way without the involvement of both of these individuals from the start. It's best not to worry about the power structure and just remember each person owns their own respective company, and each makes individual decisions for their own company, they're just part of the same family.

There are also other very important members of the family that don't always get their due, but Jussi and Dave are the figureheads.

I have no info on the release, but I can say that the Lite surprises me constantly. I really like it. (lightweight, portable, catches most like a permanent basket)

So has anyone here tried all runs of C-PD's, if so can they make a listing of them from OS to US? Im looking for some beefy PD's I can beat in and some straights out of the box. PS: I love this mold.

1st runs are always going to be king, but they're really hard to find these days (not to mention $$$). The Metal Flakes in the DM store currently are nice and beefy. Definitely more beefy than any recent run's I've thrown, including the 5th run JL's that were advertised to be close to the 1st runs in terms of stability. I have one in the bag to cover those big hyzer lines. Also, though I've not thrown them, the Euro Open glow PD's are supposed to be pretty beefy too.

As far as straight(er) C-lines, the flat, stiff and pearly 3rd runs were awesome, and apparently the new flat 6th runs are similar. I think there are still some 3rd runs floating around out there in the wild and the DM store has the 6th runs (categorized under 'Flatter Jolly Launcher')

I've not thrown a Fist Run, but the EO Glows are noticeably beefier than the 5th Run. Not WAAYYY beefier, but noticeably.

OS to US

1st Run
EO glow BEAR RAGE!
3rd/6th Run
4th/5th Run


you don't want second runs, accidental plus rim.

I also chime that other than 1st run max weight it's hard to see the difference (it's mostly in the late fade portion of flight that there is one i.e really dumpy or forward)

All PD's fly like PD's so don't be discouraged about not being able to find a specific run (though it shouldn't be any trouble) they are all HSS with nice LSS.

It's the best driver I've ever thrown, all plastics and all runs (except for 2nd :)).

Strange. The 5th runs I've thrown flew similar to the 3rd runs. Not as "flippy" as the 4th runs.

sorry, switch 5th and 6th.

good call.

Great info thanks guys!

That's been my experience with the MF PD's too.

For what's readily available (for now!) take your pick of the EO Glows or MF's.

Sorry can someone post the agreed upon OS to US spectrum?

OS to US

1st Run
EO glow BEAR RAGE!/ Aussie Open MF
5th Run
3rd Run
6th Run
4th Run


You don't want second runs, accidental plus rim.

Here's how I see it. But we are really picking at some pretty fine differences.

I'll list OS to well... less OS (no PD I've thrown is really understable)
-This list is only based on plastics/runs that I own and have thrown (all are max weight)-
EO Glow "Bear"
Metal Flake
5th Run JL
New S-Line Freak Stamp
6th Run Flatter JL (been bagging this one lately - nice straight to fade and feels great in the hand)
4th Run Avery Stamp
G-Line 1st run
4th Run

Ive seen a few folks specifically in search of 2nd run plusrims. They are not necessarily garbage, you just want to know what you are getting to avoid surprises.

when/where can i get one of the discmania california shirts master lizotte is wearing in the speed gun video i saw this morning?

https://instagram.com/simon_lizotte/

I'll tell you what...the couple of JL PD x-out's I picked up have kicked my Firebirds out of the bag. They're reeeeeeeally overstable...very similar to first runs stability-wise.

While I'm guessing we could all make extensive lists of current molds we would like to see run in different plastics for 2015. I am curious to know if you had to pick on area to add a new to disc to the Discmania line-up, what would the numbers be? And why? always love hearing other Discmaniac's thoughts on this!

mega os glideless putter, mid and fwy
ternish speed 11 driver

We already make 3 of the 4. :)

Glow C-Line P3 for Putter
Mid/Fairway hybrid speed is the FD2
Tern-ish driver is a TD2, maybe a P-Line DD2 for bigger arms. My Terns were rather understable so that's my experience.

Probably a true understable mid. Not everyone likes to cycle plastic (otherwise a P-line MD2 would work), and it is a major hole in their lineup. Yes, it seems their pros are more about angles with overstable discs and the company's goal is to simplify disc buying, but yet, that's still a major hole in the lineup.

Now that discmania has announced the flying circus and the cool gear and discs coming with it, will we see new gear on the discmania site here in the US anytime soon? Really itching for a discmania drifit shirt and won't be able to attend any of the events because they're only in the southern states.

OS Putter - Rhyno/Harp/Scale key here is FLAT.

OS MID - Gator/Drone FLAT.

US MID - Stingray/Theory/Tursas

we all know (due to runs of JL gators/FTrocs/FTrhynos/*insert*3 etc.) that the capability to produce consistent flat tops in premium plastic is totally possible.

Oh, did I say mega, I meant giga :D Your suggestions just dont quite do it for me. I do bag the FD2 but also a 12x FAF Firebird, completely different animals.

Glow P3 did not do it for me, I am talking about flat Premium Jokeri overstability, like something STUPID OS.

Mid more like Champ Gator stable, fwy more like flat champ Firebird stable. (then again, you can just bag those, even if you are a "loyalist"...)

I think CD2 might be the ticket for the last slot I was jabbering about, just gotta get to know it better.

Thanks!

i'd love to see a pd3

Just picked up an X-P1x and I am digging it. The concave top is a nice touch. Any word on restocks of these ones?

Not sure what Ryan has planned...but I do know that when it does happen the black ones are STUPID concave and grippy...and that fresh cut grass foil make's a purrrrrty stamp on it.