Thanks for all the questions and comments guys!

Thanks for the info, We'll certainly be making more of the Nate Sexton C-LINE DDs.

Thanks for the feedback on everything. We really appreciate it!

Hm, maybe we should recommend this when people call in to the store. Thanks for the insight :)

From my memory (before they re-did everything) The FD2 would have done me a lot of good there. Hole 2, 3, 6, 8, 15 and 17 would have been attacked with the FD2 for me :)

We will be working on getting them up as soon as we can, we're really sorry for the delay.

Nice :)

Thank you for the info and review. I can't say it enough, it's very very valuable to us!

Every power up the P2? We see Simon and Paul do it often... Especially at the Ledgestone.

That's a new one! Frolf punk :)

That is indeed a 5th run, I don't know of many with that exact color. We can look around and if we find some we can have som more made.

AW was originally Anhyzer Wraith. The top on most of our drivers is referred to as the "Anhyzer Top". We have found in our testing we can throw lower lines with higher power when we throw comparable discs. Maybe we need to put together a montage on different ways we can throw our discs. This anhyzer top could be why a lot of people consider us a "Pro Only" brand because it tends to make most of our discs very overstable.

Some people are very very picky about finding those exact DDs.

All of the current C-LINE PD2s have the bubbles in the rim. We have found that we can get more consistent results this way. About the Runs: you can usually tell the difference by two major things: Bubbles in the rim and the dome. Since all of yours have bubbles you would have 3rd, 4th, and 5th run C-LINE PD2s. The 3rd run has the pop top and very very overstable. The 4th and 5th run are both flat and have bubbles, the 5th run is harder to see the bubbles in the rim because it's a little more hazy looking. Hope that helps :)

Yeah, they do love them like crazy :)

"All of the current C-LINE PD2s have the bubbles in the rim. We have found that we can get more consistent results this way. About the Runs: you can usually tell the difference by two major things: Bubbles in the rim and the dome. Since all of yours have bubbles you would have 3rd, 4th, and 5th run C-LINE PD2s. The 3rd run has the pop top and very very overstable. The 4th and 5th run are both flat and have bubbles, the 5th run is harder to see the bubbles in the rim because it's a little more hazy looking. Hope that helps"

they all have the same monster pop top as my Slines and have bubbles, 3rd run for sure in that case?

Any idea if we can expect s and p line pd2 in the 165-170 range?

Hey! I've been loving the Simon Lizotte signature swirly S-line FD3. Everything including the stamp is just amazing.

So could we be seeing Simon Lizotte Signature FD coming out in that sweet swirly S-line plastic anytime soon? It is the only thing I'm missing in my life right now.

I saw that McPro Aviars were produced in green. Does that mean we could get some P2's in green? Green with a white stamp would be amazing for putting. :)

Any word on where I can get some more pearly champystar first run s line pds? The nice meaty flat ones!

yes, take a look at our "Early Run S-LINE PD" on the Discmania Store. I think that's what you're looking for.

I believe there's a very good chance :)

We have a swirly S-LINE FD out right now. But, since simon does not throw the S-LINE FD we haven't really considered it.

We will do our best to get some up for sale if we have some.

Yes, that would be the 3rd run for sure.

Why have G-line PD2s not been put into normal production? I've been lucky enough to get my hands on a couple and want more!!

(I'm guessing that they're going to be so awesome that DM is having to mass produce them to keep up with the demand. :p)

Paypal at the ready! :) I love my swirly green mini's you guys made for me. Would be a great combination of the two.

Can you hint at the possibility of a DM disc being in the USDGC players packs again?

what's the official ranking on the PD2 on the stability of flight between runs?

what is the most overstable run ever?

2nd run DD's...how do they fly compared to the other runs?

I LOVE my second run FD and feel like it's the perfect disc. Any chance there are more in the warehouse that you will release? Or will you ever produce more? I have the FD2 and love it as well but nothing compares to the 2nd run FD

/\this

the next run of FD won't be a 2nd run...
I have a new pair of 2nd runs that I don't know what to do with...

I definitely know what to do with them. Send them to me!! :D

Fisticuffs for them. I'd really be super interested too though

How would a cline fd compare to a champ teebird?

Straighter and not as wind resistant(Unless you find a 2nd run). The FD is like a Leopard on steroids imo. The FD is also incredibly long for a speed 7 fairway driver. The FD is very controllable for hyzers, straights shots, anhyzers. It's fantastic in the woods too. I've had an FD or three in my bag ever since they came out.

That sounds awesome! I got one on the way.

beefy leopard/worn teebird flight.

I like that description too!

I would say well seasoned teebird with more lateral movement, reminds me more of a well seasoned eagle/ beefy leopard.

come on ryan, give us the diggs!

what's to come this year as far as discmania??

discmaniacs need something to look forward to!

I just hope the next run of fds is more like the 3rd and 4th

This. Please.

I've only thrown fourth runs so far what's the difference between the fifth and fourth runs?

Fifth are closer to first runs in flight.

I read that about the fifth runs but I just started throwing fd's and have never thrown a first run how does the compare to a fourth run hss,less wise?

while there are nuances between runs, I think plastic is a bigger factor. For simplicity sake (anyone feel free to correct me)

DFD
most understable of any of the plastics. Great for standstill shots/low power hyzer flips/rollers/shot that definitely need to end right. Biggest advantage is how little power it needs to start flying (very useful) FLIPPY

SFD
very neutral flight, imagine if a leopard and a Tl had a baby. Great for long straight fairway drives/hyzer flips/ LOOOONG anhyzer/standstill shots. Can definitely handle more power than the DFD but again doesn't take much to get this disc going. NEUTRAL

CFD
I am least knowlegable about the 1/3/4/5/6 run FDs, from what I understand they all teeter around the -1,+1 flight path some being a hair more stable some being a hair less. STABLE


2nd run CFD
the holy grail for those who fell in love with them, it's an FD that flys like a teebird. random happenstance and while great for mold consolidation (not to mention **** perfect flight) they are limited and alot have been bought up and hoarded. flat,stiff,pearly goodness. OVERSTABLE

long story short

Hmm... wonder who's been doing that??


(paging fasteddie and OB Four :p)

Here's my personal ratings for all of the FD's from the FD thread:

2nd run C-Line (pretty much no high speed turn; strong forward fade; I'd rate it 0 HSS, 2 LSS)
3rd/4th run C-Line (some high speed turn; good forward fade; -.75 HSS, 1.5 LSS)
S-Line (starts out as a straight shooter, but will beat into being less stable. second closest to the flight #'s after it's been beaten in a little imo; -1 HSS, 1.25 LSS)
1st run C-Line (closest to the actual flight ratings of any FD imo; -1 HSS, 1 LSS)
5th run C-line (about the same as the 1st run. Stiffer JL plastic; -1 HSS, 1 LSS)
G-Line (predictable high speed turn and a lot of glide; less low speed fade; definitely more understable for bigger arms; hyzer flip machine; -1.25 HSS, 1 LSS)
Lady Line (definitely understable; beat in quickly; -1.5 HSS, .5 LSS)
D-Line (flip city!! I've spent a little more time with these and they're still super understable out of the box; beat in super fast; great beginner & roller disc; -2.5 HSS, .5 LSS)

As someone who has never thrown a 2nd run FD (thinking that as I am not a power thrower, it would be too overstable for my use, especially if I think FD as a straight mold), what would be the difference between a 2nd run FD and, say, a C-PD (just a C-PD, no need to go into run details. I know the 1st run is the most OS)? Other than the rim width.

Just as well, they are so hoarded that I might do best keeping my distance to them. Dont want to urge for something else that is hard to find.

2nd run FD just flys like teebird/banshee (depending on the thrower)

basically a shorter PD.

even at light weights these things are stable as hell.

FD's in terms of HSS (least to most)

-third run

-fourth run

-5th run

-third run pearly

-First run (especially pop tops!)

-Second run

[QUOTE=Um...;2865532]Hmm... wonder who's been doing that??


(paging fasteddie and OB Four :p)

I want to propose that OB four and I include each other in our wills so in the event of a catastrophe one or the other will assume protective rights over the largest combined hoard of 2nd run FDs :P

People on FB are going nuts over second run FD's again. I am seeing 25-30 being spent on one! Sit on those stashes for a lot longer :)

will do!
(don't have facebook so I don't know the current demand for discs)

if I didn't have/throw them I would probably just throw a teebird/fd2/insert stable fairway.

Just wanted to say it's amazing to throw and rep such a revolutionizing company that knows what they're doing.

This Disc Golf World tour news is fantastic! Jussi is the man. He has the vision for our sport

Finally got a CD2 in my hands. Reminds me of the innova thunderbird. Any one else like this comparison? I was afraid it would be overlap with my beloved PD's but it seems to turn more and hold an anny line better as well. What are your thoughts on this mold?

Btw I now carry only discmania drivers and couldn't be happier! Loving this c-line and p-line plastic!

Must be the CD2 you have, I threw c and s-line pd vs c-cd2. I agree they aren't as dumpy at the end of the flight as a pd but they are possibly more HSs. I have several and they all flew more Hss than any of pd's I've tried. I like the pd but love the CD2 and with the release of the fd3 it kicked all pd's out of my bag. But I do like your comparison, I think the thunderbird is the glow sexton fb to the Pd's firebird. Where I think the cd2 is like a more HSS Valkyrie.