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chosenmatrix 04-19-2021 02:02 PM

less flexy bracing?
 
I have been working on improving form, after playing for like 8 years without ever trying to work on the basics. I have been working hard to reduce rounding, but now I am questioning my bracing.

Should the knee be locked during the brace at the hit point, or should there be some flex?

Any critique/advice welcome.

Full speed and slo-mo links below.

https://youtu.be/9URsHU32bck

https://youtu.be/GTkhUnJv9jM

flatflip 04-19-2021 03:22 PM

Flex is good but it would help if you got more weight into the brace, which may require some strengthening (and some slowing down).
Recommend pushing off your rear toe instead of heel to get a more efficient transfer.

bsammons 04-19-2021 05:38 PM

Brace should feel like a one-legged deadlift keeping tension between the ground and the disc. From the feet to the hamstrings to the right glute to the lat, then tricep then forearm then disc. One big posterior chain through the arm.

Brace really shouldn’t lock out, it should be flexed stiff like you’re swinging to kick a ball but shouldn’t ever lock out for longevity’s sake. Try tossing a hammer, swinging it instead of trying to throw it. That should give you a pretty good feel for both not rounding and the brace.

sidewinder22 04-19-2021 09:12 PM

Yeah, and your rear foot is turned too backward and stride ends up too long. Too much gas for you to put on the brakes.

You want to make a quicker and compacter stride and weight shift. Starting slower, so you can fall and accelerate faster later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnhM5amro0#t=1m14s

chosenmatrix 04-20-2021 08:15 AM

yes, I can kinda feel that. I think pushing off my heel is forcing my stride to be too long. If I shorten my stride and push off my toe (back foot), it feels more like a solid throw, instead of just using forward momentum and all arm. This is just slow motion in the office, I'll try to work on it in the field today.

DiscFifty 04-20-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder22 (Post 3710426)
Yeah.....

Just quoted to get your attention. If you don't mind, whose form in 2021 do you like as the best overall visual reference to study? Thx.

bsammons 04-20-2021 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3710616)
Just quoted to get your attention. If you don't mind, whose form in 2021 do you like as the best overall visual reference to study? Thx.

Not sw22 but hereís my opinion nonetheless

All pros have different stylistic/personalization to their form to fit their body styles and, something that I think is often overlooked, their different insertion points (google is your friend here)
What that means is what works best for a certain pro, doesnít necessarily work best for another pro.

I think mcbeth has incredible form, with the caveat that his knee is a little too bent for comfortís sake and his pivot is sometimes the middle of the foot/toe instead of the heel.

GG has figured out how to send a disc with as much force as his body can muster, so for all out distance and similar body type his would be ideal.

Drew Gibson has great form, but his knee can sometimes lockout on big distance drives. Pretty much my only concern when watching his

What I look for is smoothness and ease on the body when looking at peopleís form. If itís a smooth swing without excessive movements, and progressively accelerates the disc with the right muscle groups Iíd say itís good form - and the three listed above certainly do that.

azplaya25 04-20-2021 04:36 PM

Pretty sure SW22 has always encouraged people to copy someone with a similar build. If your long and lanky copy eagle. If your short/stocky go with gg or even brinster. For me - Iím just trying to copy SWís form lol. He throws backhand and forehand, with accuracy, over 450. And Iím 5 foot 8 with a similar dad bod going on so Iíve got the body type thing dialed in

Parbequeue 04-20-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by azplaya25 (Post 3710818)
Pretty sure SW22 has always encouraged people to copy someone with a similar build. If your long and lanky copy eagle. If your short/stocky go with gg or even brinster. For me - Iím just trying to copy SWís form lol. He throws backhand and forehand, with accuracy, over 450. And Iím 5 foot 8 with a similar dad bod going on so Iíve got the body type thing dialed in


*Brewery Bod

Haha

sidewinder22 04-20-2021 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3710616)
Just quoted to get your attention. If you don't mind, whose form in 2021 do you like as the best overall visual reference to study? Thx.

I like to watch most of them and still love the classics. Of the newer up and comers I've been impressed with Gavin Rathbun.


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