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geo_08 12-18-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jcassidy1990 (Post 2910022)
That was my suggestion as well. Kaxe has been a game changing mold for me.
I love it and see myself bagging it for a loonnngg while.

Would you consider the kaxe Z to be like a seasoned gazelle-ish then? I like the idea of the beadless disc if this is a driver for me.

Mulligan 12-18-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by geo_08 (Post 2910039)
Would you consider the kaxe Z to be like a seasoned gazelle-ish then? I like the idea of the beadless disc if this is a driver for me.

I'd say thats a fair assessment.
I got rid of my Zs expecting the regular Kaxe to eventually season into a straighter flyer but its lasting SO long and really holding the original stability so well that I wish I still had them.
This video is the best I've found on the Kaxe Z specifically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEk2gFhTszM

Kodachrome 01-17-2016 12:24 PM

any more people that have thrown gstar gazelles for a wider sample size? saw a couple accounts earlier. thinking about picking up a couple since gstar seasons decently quick, but dx just isn't an option here in the woods. dx is magical, but i already have enough roller gazelles. sometimes i hit trees, you know?

ranger 01-17-2016 12:31 PM

I just got a Champ KC gazelle. Are these any good?

geo_08 01-17-2016 12:33 PM

I've thrown someone else's and the course and it was like the flat star that I have in flight. I think it was a tick more stable, but every bit as glidey as a dx.

I have been tempted to order some, but can't quite justify that large of order from the innova shop yet.

ranger 01-17-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by geo_08 (Post 2927042)
I've thrown someone else's and the course and it was like the flat star that I have in flight. I think it was a tick more stable, but every bit as glidey as a dx.

I have been tempted to order some, but can't quite justify that large of order from the innova shop yet.

Do they still make the champs? The one I have is definitely OLD

geo_08 01-17-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ranger (Post 2927043)
Do they still make the champs? The one I have is definitely OLD

You can find the double eagle stamped readily enough. The pro shop only has pro, star, and gstar last time I checked.

NathanNoodleArm 01-17-2016 02:02 PM

I just ordered a G* yesterday as well as a champ Cheetah and a star Cheetah. The reviews of the champ Cheetah say they think it flies like a Gazelle. We'll see, I guess.

geo_08 01-17-2016 02:13 PM

Will be interested to hear your thoughts.

Another mold I am playing with is a polaris Lf, same rim size, but unfortunately oop as well. Was hoping hyzerbomb would pick it up, but I see that as unlikely considering the veteran.

TheBMeistor 01-17-2016 08:29 PM

Closest to premium gaz I've thrown have been Kaxe, Champ Cheetah (pearly pro shop ones), and Quantum Polaris LS.

Pretty sure my Champ Cheetah is the most stable of the bunch if that matters. QPLS is a lot more stable than you would think and is readily available at a cheap price. Base plastic Polaris can't handle headwind at all but the Q's stay straight and still have some fade, and they practically give them away as demand is low.

geo_08 01-17-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBMeistor (Post 2927267)
Closest to premium gaz I've thrown have been Kaxe, Champ Cheetah (pearly pro shop ones), and Quantum Polaris LS.

Pretty sure my Champ Cheetah is the most stable of the bunch if that matters. QPLS is a lot more stable than you would think and is readily available at a cheap price. Base plastic Polaris can't handle headwind at all but the Q's stay straight and still have some fade, and they practically give them away as demand is low.


I personally did not dig the kaxe. Didn't feel gazelle ish, but agree with the PLS.

Bogey H8tr 01-17-2016 09:29 PM

Interesting this thread came up when it did. Just bought two jolly launcher gazelles in hopes they can take over my fairway game. Used to bag eagles and teebirds but the PD's kicked them out. Would you guys say the jolly launcher is the most stable of the plastics? Or is it 11x kc and ce? Also curious to see what else you guys bag / pair with the gazelle, do you bag other fairways or is the gazelle versatile enough with different plastics and stages of wear to have it be the only fairway your bag?

geo_08 01-17-2016 09:46 PM

A) where'd you find joly launchers and are there more?

B) I've not thrown a run labled as JL, but my domey champs are the most stable. I carry a whippet for beef, the champ gazelle, then a few varying stages of dx right now that covers stable, hyzer flip and turnover. That is really all I carry for fairways, but admittedly the gazelle isn't as long as the TB or Eagles. Which works for me as I am trying to focus on slower discs. When I bag something longer I will bag a 9 ish speed like an escape.

Bogey H8tr 01-17-2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by geo_08 (Post 2927304)
A) where'd you find joly launchers and are there more?

B) I've not thrown a run labled as JL, but my domey champs are the most stable. I carry a whippet for beef, the champ gazelle, then a few varying stages of dx right now that covers stable, hyzer flip and turnover. That is really all I carry for fairways, but admittedly the gazelle isn't as long as the TB or Eagles. Which works for me as I am trying to focus on slower discs. When I bag something longer I will bag a 9 ish speed like an escape.

I got them off the marketplace in my fsot thread, there might be more out there if you make a thread. I know Clearwater disc golf superstore website has yellows that have the eagle double stamp on them and are max weight. Are your champs the circle stamp champ ones from the factory store a while back? those are the ones I bought and assumed they're jolly launcher but they may not be, I'm not exactly sure.

Kodachrome 01-17-2016 10:39 PM

Yup, those are the only jl gazelles these days.

geo_08 01-17-2016 10:42 PM

My champs are the double eagle x outs.


I guess I need to make a new wanted thread specifically for gazelles as mine hasn't gotten a bite. Good find for you.

TheBMeistor 01-18-2016 09:43 AM

Just one thing to add about the CS Cheetahs, they are pretty flat where the CC Gazelles I have thrown have had more dome.

Bogey H8tr 01-18-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by geo_08 (Post 2927331)
My champs are the double eagle x outs.


I guess I need to make a new wanted thread specifically for gazelles as mine hasn't gotten a bite. Good find for you.

What do you think of those x outs? Might grab a couple if I like my circle stamps, or petition innova to have another run of the circle stamps :thmbup:

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Originally Posted by TheBMeistor (Post 2927477)
Just one thing to add about the CS Cheetahs, they are pretty flat where the CC Gazelles I have thrown have had more dome.

Good to know. The cheetahs look pretty nice but the -2 turn kind of makes me weary. Have you thrown them? Can you speak to if they show less turn than that?

Questatement 01-18-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBMeistor (Post 2927477)
Just one thing to add about the CS Cheetahs, they are pretty flat where the CC Gazelles I have thrown have had more dome.

And the CS Cheetahs are much less HSS than the CS Gazelles and the Cheetahs are still more HSS than any traditional (DX) Gazelle that I've thrown. Both great discs though. Imagine the most OS Teebird out there, drop one speed and that's the CS Gazelle.

rakamkram 01-18-2016 10:46 AM

I have one of the glow gazelles in the mail right now. Can't wait to try it out, but I might have to wait for the snow to go away. I'm guessing it'll be a little beefier than I was hoping for, but I'm still looking forward to throwing it. Maybe I'll need to learn how to dye it so I can use it all year round...

geo_08 01-18-2016 10:47 AM

My double eagle x out doesn't sound quite as OS as the CS gazelle. Sounds like you get some awesome s turns with the CS cheetah, may have to check one out.

Questatement 01-18-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by geo_08 (Post 2927528)
My double eagle x out doesn't sound quite as OS as the CS gazelle. Sounds like you get some awesome s turns with the CS cheetah, may have to check one out.

And they have that old school pearliness. Combined with the stamp, one of the most stylish non OOP discs that I own as I get comments on it quite often.

Kodachrome 01-18-2016 11:07 AM

The cheetahs are beautiful, for sure. Very flat, pearly and comfortable in the hand. But not a gazelle. :(

PMantle 01-18-2016 11:17 AM

My Eagle double stamp is very overstable. I maybe should have gotten the Cheetah.

AlexJensen86 01-18-2016 01:23 PM

The Circle Stamps and the x outs with random double stamps are the same disc as far as I know. Is this correct?

Bogey H8tr 01-18-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexJensen86 (Post 2927625)
The Circle Stamps and the x outs with random double stamps are the same disc as far as I know. Is this correct?

This is what I thought, but it appears as if the eagle double stamp is more overstable. Anyone that has thrown the circle stamp gazelles want to chime in?

Questatement 01-18-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey H8tr (Post 2927504)
What do you think of those x outs? Might grab a couple if I like my circle stamps, or petition innova to have another run of the circle stamps :thmbup:



Good to know. The cheetahs look pretty nice but the -2 turn kind of makes me weary. Have you thrown them? Can you speak to if they show less turn than that?

My CS Cheetah is the current one sold and I'd give it a -.5 / 2 on stability. The CS Gazelles I'd go 0 / 3.

geo_08 01-18-2016 09:07 PM

So, out of curiosity what are people using their gazelles for compared to other mids or fairways. How far are you throwing them?

Kodachrome 01-18-2016 09:23 PM

I use gazelles on virtually all fairway duties. No mids except for the hornet. I will be using long putters instead, ala anode/envy. I am comfortable enough to rip my putters 100% to compensate for low ceilings or throw a fairway like the gazelle at 80%.

I haven't been able to throw consistently since June due to some troubles, and the last time I did I nearly broke my arm off backward at the elbow so I'm not sure how I'll be throwing this year, but I used my gazelles on nearly every wooded straight shot over 300'. I could probably push them to 360' for a fairway shot. I like to throw hard. The pd out to 400 or so, pd2 goes a bit farther, probably 440' max, open field.

cooter 01-18-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by geo_08 (Post 2927922)
So, out of curiosity what are people using their gazelles for compared to other mids or fairways. How far are you throwing them?

I had a decent sized distance gap between mids and the Thunderbird so my Gazelles fit nicely right in between. They are the perfect tweener. I use 11x KC Pro for straight/stable and flat top Star for understable. As far as distance goes it depends on the shot. If I'm near the max of Roc3 range and have to straddle around a tree or a low ceiling I'll toss the Gazelle. If the shot is just out of my mids range and not to the Thunderbird distance it's all Gazelle.

AlexJensen86 01-18-2016 10:04 PM

11X for most fairway shots. Rocs up to 310 given cieling gazelles come in bout 280 up to 350 or a little further. Got one beat and one fresh. Above that I go Metal flake teebird3 300 to 380 and pds get me up to just past 400. No distance drivers besides pd.

geo_08 01-18-2016 10:16 PM

So far I am hearing mostly similar sentiments to how I use them.

I drive with a chief/envy up to 200 or so maybe longer with enough ceiling. Then my truths come in up to 250 to 275 depending on ceiling. Gazelles come in about 250 low ceiling and up to 350 or so. From there it is my escapes.

PMantle 01-19-2016 08:07 AM

Have you found stable Truths? My last two start turning over 275. Sometimes when I can't have that. Thinking of switching to Cores.

NathanNoodleArm 01-19-2016 08:19 AM

I just got an opto Core and it's way less stable than a Truth

jdw80550 01-19-2016 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PMantle (Post 2928059)
Have you found stable Truths? My last two start turning over 275. Sometimes when I can't have that. Thinking of switching to Cores.

A Buzzz would fit the bill, just saying....:thmbup:

PMantle 01-19-2016 09:23 AM

I have a Big Z Buzzz I will try. I must have a couple wonky Truths. Couple of my buds have Cores and they don't seem as US as my Truths. Hmmmm.

Questatement 01-19-2016 11:00 AM

Will Innova do another run of Gazelles in some of the new, killer DX?

Replacing the good, vintage DX (01-08) every 6-9 months is getting more difficult all of the time.

geo_08 01-19-2016 11:05 AM

It would be nice, but I fear they won't. Given the talks about taking OOP. I would assume they are burning through the stock they have. MY local PIAS has had the same two DX gazelles and cheetahs on the shelf for probably a year now. I am tempted to get them just because they have sat there so long.

I just don't really want a yellow, white, or red one. Cheetahs are getting to be the same way color wise. Occasionally you will find a blue around in either.

I have found a source for all kinds of nice rare gazelles, but they are asking premium prices. Has anybody thrown the 150 glass gazelles in clear champish plastic?

Also would you say a circle stamp is really worth $35 new? I want to say Innova will run those again...

Questatement 01-19-2016 11:13 AM

Never was able to get my money's worth out of the DX Cheetah but when I threw an all vintage (04 back) DX bag for six consecutive months, the Gazelle stood out from the rest. Something about the surface friction of DX and that speed 5-7 range makes for long fliers with little effort. I find my DX gazelles with their incredible forward fade range out to about where a premium speed 8-8.5 would with the same power and line and the smaller rim usually translates to better accuracy for me.

It's a great disc when I'm dead tired from too much play.

walde 01-19-2016 03:37 PM

I only have experience with DX and circle stamp Champ Gazelles, how do Star and Gstar compare to them stabilitywise? And how floppy are the Gstar Gazelles?


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