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robdeforge 02-17-2022 12:50 PM

$30 is too much for a disc to me, but I still went ahead and did it in no small part because my original color glow md3 cost $30 after shipping YEARS ago. even $25 is pushing it - I was really disappointed to see the '21 sexton firebirds retail for that...

I also got a couple color glow chariots to try out but those were $25 from infinite, so trying out MD3s / MD3 replacements for me is just a more expensive thing that I've decied to put up with. probably won't be buying anymore for a long time, though

ray1970 02-17-2022 01:25 PM

Itís really weird but $25 for a tour series disc seems reasonable to me but once you hit $30 it almost becomes a deal breaker.

My OCD is like an onion I guess. Many layers.

DiscT 02-17-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ray1970 (Post 3791011)
Itís really weird but $25 for a tour series disc seems reasonable to me but once you hit $30 it almost becomes a deal breaker.

My OCD is like an onion I guess. Many layers.

All valid. Thereís no debating that the price is steep Will that ever change for DM? Iím really curious if they can regain their footing. Their plastic is no doubt some of the most expensive.

I also didnít realize so many throwers here considered the new Md3 to be distinctly different than the new original?

Agarner14 02-17-2022 01:44 PM

DM has, in a way, already addressed the $30 price point. They are producing discs overseas and using air transport to get discs to the US quickly. This is especially the case for special releases like the IS3. This is very expensive and likely explains the price increase across all of the DM originals line. I imagine this is also why we are all still waiting for the promised Q4 FD and PD releases. It just takes time to move the inventory from overseas. Is it a smart business move? I think time will tell.

I have to imagine that DM is piling up inventory for a series of back to back releases moving into the Spring/Early Summer. I hope that the spring looks something like the fall of 2021 with lots of releases and plenty of inventory. I guess we'll know more once DM puts out the long awaited and promised production update.

@CD- 02-17-2022 01:45 PM

Quantity manufactured - seems like they got a years worth available in a single drop (15k+ worldwide?). Used to only see 2-3 releases scattered throughout the year totaling 5k or 7k. Having enough available to meet demand through the early season may be DM's goal.

Price - escalated a bit more with shipping + tax costs, 1 disc for $35+ is a lot direct from the DM store or other vendors. I remember the DM Tour C-Line Glow signature series from 2018-2020 were $22-25 before shipping. Even then it was consistently a few dollars more than other manufacturers Tour fundraiser discs. Partially this was due to another company manufacturing their discs but I'm guessing the guaranteed money from sponsorship contracts, new manufacturing operation, inflation, and container shipping to U.S. are pushing the prices up.

Stamp - design isn't too bad, no special foils though so you won't have collectors trying to assemble a full set.

DiscT 02-17-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by @CD- (Post 3791022)
Quantity manufactured - seems like they got a years worth available in a single drop (15k+ worldwide?). Used to only see 2-3 releases scattered throughout the year totaling 5k or 7k. Having enough available to meet demand through the early season may be DM's goal.

Price - escalated a bit more with shipping + tax costs, 1 disc for $35+ is a lot direct from the DM store or other vendors. I remember the DM Tour C-Line Glow signature series from 2018-2020 were $22-25 before shipping. Even then it was consistently a few dollars more than other manufacturers Tour fundraiser discs. Partially this was due to another company manufacturing their discs but I'm guessing the guaranteed money from sponsorship contracts, new manufacturing operation, inflation, and container shipping to U.S. are pushing the prices up.

Stamp - design isn't too bad, no special foils though so you won't have collectors trying to assemble a full set.

I didnít see that many when I got on, so that makes sense. I also didnít convert to DM until last year, so I didnít have previous drops as a reference. Your theory makes a lot of sense.

ray1970 02-17-2022 02:07 PM

Official Ask Discmania Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Agarner14 (Post 3791020)
DM has, in a way, already addressed the $30 price point. They are producing discs overseas and using air transport to get discs to the US quickly. This is especially the case for special releases like the IS3. This is very expensive and likely explains the price increase across all of the DM originals line. I imagine this is also why we are all still waiting for the promised Q4 FD and PD releases. It just takes time to move the inventory from overseas. Is it a smart business move? I think time will tell.

I get the whole overseas logistics thing. I think the higher prices honestly have more to do with recovering the cost of new equipment or facilities. I can get base plastic trilogy stuff for $9 and tour series Wysocki Felons and Harps are only $25. These things all make pretty much the same trip to get here.

Edit- sorry, didnít realize they were flying the discs into the states. I would assume Trilogy just puts them on a ship or whatever.

Agarner14 02-17-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ray1970 (Post 3791026)
I get the whole overseas logistics thing. I think the higher prices honestly have more to do with recovering the cost of new equipment or facilities. I can get base plastic trilogy stuff for $9 and tour series Wysocki Felons and Harps are only $25. These things all make pretty much the same trip to get here.

Edit- sorry, didnít realize they were flying the discs into the states. I would assume Trilogy just puts them on a ship or whatever.

Yeah, it is the air transport that really bumps the price up. DM support posted on this thread about it a few weeks ago. I think Trilogy has a well established supply and production chain which DM lacks. So in order to get discs to the US for special releases they end up flying them over which increases the price. I assume they don't do this for the base line releases which is why those release dates keep getting pushed back.

Just my theory.

Flick Maniac 02-17-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ray1970 (Post 3791011)
Itís really weird but $25 for a tour series disc seems reasonable to me but once you hit $30 it almost becomes a deal breaker.

My OCD is like an onion I guess. Many layers.

Same boat (onion?) here. 29.90Ä was my limit when I was still buying.

discerdoo 02-17-2022 03:34 PM

I won't be paying $30 for a stock FD or PD.

I vaguely remember saying I wouldn't pay $15 for a mid grade plastic putter too. 😟


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