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DiscFifty 01-02-2020 08:26 AM

Brodie Smith PDGA #128378
 
https://www.pdga.com/player/128378
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21
https://www.youtube.com/user/brodiesmith21

Video of his current drive/form:
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...27976979607552

Hard to tell if he's in it for the short or long term. But it appears he is taking the game somewhat serious as he documents the journey to his first PDGA tournament.

Any predictions on how well he will do? His Ultimate background should suit the short game (mid ranges, putters) well, but I think his biggest hurdle will be getting 400+ distance with drivers. :popcorn:

B The V 01-02-2020 08:44 AM

Imagine being on his card at a tournament and he is just as loud as he was with Simon and Paul. Would be so much fun.

biscoe 01-02-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by B The V (Post 3533245)
Imagine being on his card at a tournament and he is just as loud as he was with Simon and Paul. Would suck so much.

FTFY

Jolt 01-02-2020 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B The V (Post 3533245)
Imagine being on his card at a tournament and he is just as loud as he was with Simon and Paul. Would be so much fun.

Fun? more like extremely annoying

Maby fun to watch, but to be on that card trying to play your game..not so fun

B The V 01-02-2020 09:13 AM

Being sarcastic gentlemen. I couldn't watch more than a couple minutes of that video.

TheOtherBill 01-02-2020 09:17 AM

BUT he might bring his camera crew and you'd get half a million views of you playing in that group

B The V 01-02-2020 09:18 AM

Exactly what I don't want.

Glide 01-02-2020 09:43 AM

If he really committed to it, he could be pretty good. Is he committed to being pretty good or is this just for YouTube views? There is a local here in Madison who recently transitioned away from being a world-class ultimate player to competitive disc golf. Until about five years ago, he just played casually with a putter and mid-range. He is now over a 1000 rated. I believe he was the runner-up for the 2019 PDGA rookie of the year.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3533239)
https://www.pdga.com/player/128378
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21
https://www.youtube.com/user/brodiesmith21

Video of his current drive/form:
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...27976979607552

Hard to tell if he's in it for the short or long term. But it appears he is taking the game somewhat serious as he documents the journey to his first PDGA tournament.

Any predictions on how well he will do? His Ultimate background should suit the short game (mid ranges, putters) well, but I think his biggest hurdle will be getting 400+ distance with drivers. :popcorn:


Buchajs1 01-02-2020 10:10 AM

Andrew Fish is a former high level ultimate player and now likely one of the best players in the world that has a full time job. He won 2 A tiers this year and won 10000+ all while having a full time job. Do I think Brodie will ever reach that level? Probably not, but I guess itís not inconceivable

Central Scrutinizer 01-02-2020 10:28 AM

Ultimately, growth means more courses. Bring on his 2.something million subscribers, and before I'm too old every small town in America is going to have at least a 9-holer like they do basketball and tennis courts and softball fields and super expensive playground equipment. 18 baskets and cement tees is about the cost of one tennis court but can service up to 72 for recreation all at once. (Yes, I've given the pitch to parks departments!)

The old days sucked in comparison. The camaraderie and Happy Hippie Frisbee Family aspect was indeed great, and I want that to continue, but having to take a day trip just for the chance to play a different course that would have, at best, Mach III baskets with a Gazelle or Cyclone being the best driver seems like a distant memory now. It was cool to have been there during that toddler stage of the sport, but I'm glad I don't have to explain what it is every time it comes up in conversation anymore, and there are like a dozen courses near me when there used to be one.

I'm all in on the Brodie thing, and I like his enthusiasm. Bring on the growth!

elmexdela 01-02-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer (Post 3533284)
Ultimately, growth means more courses. Bring on his 2.something million subscribers, and before I'm too old every small town in America is going to have at least a 9-holer like they do basketball and tennis courts and softball fields and super expensive playground equipment. 18 baskets and cement tees is about the cost of one tennis court but can service up to 72 for recreation all at once. (Yes, I've given the pitch to parks departments!)

The old days sucked in comparison. The camaraderie and Happy Hippie Frisbee Family aspect was indeed great, and I want that to continue, but having to take a day trip just for the chance to play a different course that would have, at best, Mach III baskets with a Gazelle or Cyclone being the best driver seems like a distant memory now. It was cool to have been there during that toddler stage of the sport, but I'm glad I don't have to explain what it is every time it comes up in conversation anymore, and there are like a dozen courses near me when there used to be one.

I'm all in on the Brodie thing, and I like his enthusiasm. Bring on the growth!

just because you can put in courses doesnt mean you should

ive played so many crappy 9 hole city park model courses in small towns

quantity vs quality

crowded courses can suck to play so be careful what you wish for

Central Scrutinizer 01-02-2020 11:27 AM

I'd like to think ultimately it would lead to more quality courses too. We have way, way, way more quality courses now than we did a quarter century ago. And to alleviate crowded courses, you need more of them. People from my area who are my age can remember Brewer Park being unplayable after 12:00 noon due to the groups of 14 carrying an Eclipse in one hand and a liquor bottle cocooned in a paper bag with the other hand. It was one of three courses in a county with 750,000 or so.

I drool at the thought of private courses becoming economically viable and widespread. Critical mass for this is probably closer than we realize!

Central Scrutinizer 01-02-2020 11:31 AM

There's a new small 9-holer near me just put in a month ago. It's fabulous for my 10-year-old. We've gotta have these kinds of courses too so the next generation of serious player can get started.

GoobyPls 01-02-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elmexdela (Post 3533300)
just because you can put in courses doesnt mean you should

ive played so many crappy 9 hole city park model courses in small towns

quantity vs quality

crowded courses can suck to play so be careful what you wish for

Generally more popularity -> more courses -> less crowding. I live in a very popular area by DG standards, with >50 courses within a 60 mile radius of my house. Yes, you still run into groups of 8 chuckers sometimes, but with more courses available, they're more spread out. They also tend to congregate around the easy courses, so the better ones are less busy.

TL;DR: from my experience more popularity = a better time for disc golfers

elmexdela 01-02-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoobyPls (Post 3533315)
Generally more popularity -> more courses -> less crowding. I live in a very popular area by DG standards, with >50 courses within a 60 mile radius of my house. Yes, you still run into groups of 8 chuckers sometimes, but with more courses available, they're more spread out. They also tend to congregate around the easy courses, so the better ones are less busy.

TL;DR: from my experience more popularity = a better time for disc golfers

thats a very good point

GoobyPls 01-02-2020 05:16 PM

Actually make that >90 in a 50 mi radius per the DGCR database. That's insane

Golden Tuna 01-02-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoobyPls (Post 3533409)
Actually make that >90 in a 50 mi radius per the DGCR database. That's insane

Where do you live?

EDIT: I find Brodie unbearable - hopefully he learns some etiquette as he is playing PDGA events...

armiller 01-02-2020 06:04 PM

I'm curious how seriously he's taking this too. I can't imagine he's planning an MPO career and suspect his YouTube business is the reason for this.

At the same time, I suspect he'll be a low level MPO player without all that much work if he desires, and certainly could hit 1000 rated with some time commitment.

I'll bet he can hit the 400' mark both forehand and backhand within a month of starting to work with disc golf discs. He's got some decent form already though it needs some DG tweaking.

Hampstead 01-02-2020 06:16 PM

Brodie could really bring some attention to disc golf if he did videos with celebrity casuals who play. Stay in his lane, so to speak.

biscoe 01-02-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by armiller (Post 3533428)
I'm curious how seriously he's taking this too. I can't imagine he's planning an MPO career and suspect his YouTube business is the reason for this.

At the same time, I suspect he'll be a low level MPO player without all that much work if he desires, and certainly could hit 1000 rated with some time commitment.

I'll bet he can hit the 400' mark both forehand and backhand within a month of starting to work with disc golf discs. He's got some decent form already though it needs some DG tweaking.

I know absolutely nothing about it but it would not surprise me if Brodie knows disc golf a bit better than Brodie was letting on. He did videos with Avery years ago.

sidewinder22 01-02-2020 07:55 PM

My prediction... He will beat Lloyd Weema.

brutalbrutus 01-02-2020 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Tuna (Post 3533411)
Where do you live?

EDIT: I find Brodie unbearable - hopefully he learns some etiquette as he is playing PDGA events...

He lives somewhere around Dayton, Ohio I believe. I remember talking to him once on here and we had just been on the same course at the same time.

It's a pretty good hotbed for DG. Dayton and Cincy both have thriving scenes and Columbus isn't far away and they also have pretty good DG.

Darrington disc 01-02-2020 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer (Post 3533304)
There's a new small 9-holer near me just put in a month ago. It's fabulous for my 10-year-old. We've gotta have these kinds of courses too so the next generation of serious player can get started.

Small 9 hole courses help the sport for sure. We have one here and often the 10-15yo crowd outnumbers us. They cannot drive but still have a place to play

BrotherDave 01-02-2020 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOtherBill (Post 3533254)
BUT he might bring his camera crew and you'd get half a million views of you playing in that group

The 3-4 guys already playing with me are all the views I need of me doinking my 1-2 10 foot putts a round. :|

DiscFifty 01-02-2020 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer (Post 3533304)
There's a new small 9-holer near me just put in a month ago. It's fabulous for my 10-year-old. We've gotta have these kinds of courses too so the next generation of serious player can get started.

I've never understood why every 18 hole course put in, there isn't also a short pitch and putt 3-9 hole course put in as well. Would be a perfect course to warm up on and serve the rec/noob crowd perfectly.

DiscFifty 01-02-2020 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biscoe (Post 3533457)
I know absolutely nothing about it but it would not surprise me if Brodie knows disc golf a bit better than Brodie was letting on. He did videos with Avery years ago.

Yep, I've seen him throw discs for quite some time, but if you look at his recent form he has not progressed...that much if at all in about 7 years imop. I kept thinking why isn't he throwing 400+ by now just out of pure length of time throwing, but it appears his actual hands on throwing "discs" has been limited over the years. I'm not sure I agree with him throwing 400+ in a couple of months, but he's a good athlete, if he puts in the time...perhaps sooner than later. But the big question is, is this a short term "gimmick" for his channel(s) or perhaps something more long term he has a passion for. I think he would have an easier time being a disc golf pro compared to a ball golf pro. Maybe he's realized the same. Better to be a big fish in small water compared to a small fish in big water. lol..

Chains Bailey 01-02-2020 11:13 PM

Does he have "Leverage" enough to court a sponsor and would they be responsive?
Any chance media companies immediately ask him to be on Feature' cards for first rounds?
Will he join DGCR and Bro' it up?
If he finishes an event with a strong field (NT or DGPT) in the top ten, will DGCR implode?
Finish this card - B Smith, J Anthon, B Williams _________?

mizunodave 01-02-2020 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chains Bailey (Post 3533520)
Any chance media companies immediately ask him to be on Feature' cards for first rounds?

Are you kidding?

Chains Bailey 01-02-2020 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mizunodave (Post 3533521)
Are you kidding?

No.

Not a fan of his style or videos, but when I think strictly on business lines, why would a disc golf media company not want to dip in the pool of another 2 million viewers?

Casey 1988 01-02-2020 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3533495)
I've never understood why every 18 hole course put in, there isn't also a short pitch and putt 3-9 hole course put in as well. Would be a perfect course to warm up on and serve the rec/noob crowd perfectly.

Even my of local courses one of them that is not beginner friendly has a single practice hole that got put in with a basket non colored unlike the others that are Royal blue Mach III. The other course in town is more beginner friendly yet still enough to it that better players not the top Amateur level on up are going to have a few challenging holes.

rocthecourse 01-03-2020 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3533495)
I've never understood why every 18 hole course put in, there isn't also a short pitch and putt 3-9 hole course put in as well. Would be a perfect course to warm up on and serve the rec/noob crowd perfectly.

A local park has an easy 9 hole course plus an 18 hole course(~950/blue layout) and it is great. It really helps to reduce the number of large groups on the 18 hole course.

Another benefit of having the beginner 9 hole and intermediate level 18 is that when they installed a third course at the park down the road they were about to make it a longer and harder course because they didn't need to make it beginner friendly.

sidewinder22 01-03-2020 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chains Bailey (Post 3533520)
Does he have "Leverage" enough to court a sponsor and would they be responsive?
Any chance media companies immediately ask him to be on Feature' cards for first rounds?
Will he join DGCR and Bro' it up?
If he finishes an event with a strong field (NT or DGPT) in the top ten, will DGCR implode?
Finish this card - B Smith, J Anthon, B Williams _________?

He's more of celebrity than a lot of the celebrities that are sponsored, so yeah.
yep.
nope.
yep.
Nikko

JTacoma03 01-03-2020 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armiller (Post 3533428)
I can't imagine he's planning an MPO career and suspect his YouTube business is the reason for this.

ding ding ding

Quote:

Originally Posted by biscoe (Post 3533457)
I know absolutely nothing about it but it would not surprise me if Brodie knows disc golf a bit better than Brodie was letting on. He did videos with Avery years ago.

I was there for the Avery/Simon/Brodie video shoot. Dude literally told Avery to "grab your disc golfs" when referencing the discs themselves. That 80' jump putt over the water took him 3 hours. Simon hit the 300' water ace in 20 minutes. He showed absolutely no interest in anything other than promoting himself.


Wake me up when he's really about dg and the culture, right now people who post sponsorship announcements on facebook for street team "sponsorships" are more legit in my eyes. This dude just wants to exploit us for his ad revenue checks.

DiscFifty 01-03-2020 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JTacoma03 (Post 3533541)
Wake me up when he's really about dg and the culture, right now people who post sponsorship announcements on facebook for street team "sponsorships" are more legit in my eyes.This dude just wants to exploit us for his ad revenue checks.

Not trying to derail this thread, but I'm just glad we have people like Jamie, SpinTV, etc, that really care about "us" for the unfair exploitation in the disc golf community by setting a precedent of not taking any ad revenue for their social media video views (and surely if you did you would share that revenue with all the players) and a big shout out for not collecting "metrics" from the users that watch those videos, which again saves "us" from being exploited in return for personalized ads, info about our social media trends, etc. :clap:

"legit", "culture", "exploit", "ad revenue", seriously? I'm pretty sure "saltydiscs.com" is still available. smdh....

brutalbrutus 01-03-2020 05:35 AM

If someone can attempt to exploit DG for ad revenue...








...does that mean we finally made it?:D:|

DiscFifty 01-03-2020 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chains Bailey (Post 3533524)
Could he (Brodie Smith) walk into any disc manufacturer with his 2 million viewers and get signed on the spot regardless of skill level?

Sure! I doubt he could command big bucks, but some form of plastic sponsorship for sure. I always thought his ultimate videos would be a good place for the PDGA to advertise in an attempt to grow the sport.

His overall views, subscribers in his main channel has been trending downward (his ultimate videos peaked a few years ago) he's tried a group trick shot thing that didn't pan out, his newer ball golf channel is a work in progress. For those that don't know, he's been throwing discs for a while now. I think this video is one of his earliest documented disc golf throws. It's close to 8 years old now. But he does manage to bust out a destroyer to around 250ft. ;)


discerdoo 01-03-2020 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3533553)
Not trying to derail this thread, but I'm just glad we have people like Jamie, SpinTV, etc, that really care about "us" for the unfair exploitation in the disc golf community by setting a precedent of not taking any ad revenue for their social media video views (and surely if you did you would share that revenue with all the players) and a big shout out for not collecting "metrics" from the users that watch those videos, which again saves "us" from being exploited in return for personalized ads, info about our social media trends, etc. :clap:

"legit", "culture", "exploit", "ad revenue", seriously? I'm pretty sure "saltydiscs.com" is still available. smdh....

Yes, somebody please save the DG community from exploitation!

I'm an old fart but I don't even know who this dude is. Youtube is only for disc golf and music videos, isn't it?

Jimb 01-03-2020 08:15 AM

I like Brodie.
I hope he does well.
I hope he enjoys what heís doing.
I hope that he gets more people involved in disc golf.
Now if he could just get the Dude Perfect guys to participate, too, that would be excellent!

Yes l, I figure that Iím in the minority of disc golfers with this opinion. Thatís ok.

Danderlion 01-03-2020 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3533239)

Any predictions on how well he will do? His Ultimate background should suit the short game (mid ranges, putters) well, but I think his biggest hurdle will be getting 400+ distance with drivers. :popcorn:

I'd be shocked if he can't already throw over 400' consistently.

The guy is huge (6'5") and been launching lids his entire life.

shakatak 01-03-2020 08:56 AM

Here's a novel idea: why don't we wait and see how it turns out before trying to assume his motivation for doing this? I find him kind of annoying on his videos but I'm also willing to wait and see what happens with him before judging this whole venture.


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