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WeatherWimp 07-13-2020 08:17 PM

Whoops, wrong thread. Sorry.

BryanC 07-14-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Dub (Post 3538202)
In fact I'm willing to bet a disc he won't be rated 1000 this year at any time.

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Originally Posted by BryanC (Post 3538379)
I'm your huckleberry.

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Originally Posted by BryanC (Post 3599809)
We're less than halfway through 2020 and his rating has already gone from 0 to 960! I have a chance! :D

As of today his rating is up to 972. 28 points to go! :clap:
https://www.pdga.com/player/128378

foreputt 07-16-2020 11:17 AM

There's 400 1000 rated players. Would be pretty disappointing if he can't crack that group.

I expect him to end the year in the 1010 range along with obviously good, but Paul still giving him 5 throws a round.

ChrisWoj 07-16-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by foreputt (Post 3607854)
There's 400 1000 rated players. Would be pretty disappointing if he can't crack that group.

I expect him to end the year in the 1010 range along with obviously good, but Paul still giving him 5 throws a round.

He's definitely been aided by the Coronavirus break. Months of additional training before piling tour rounds on his number. I still don't see 1010. Additionally given the smaller tour schedule moving forward: I'm not sure he'll play enough rounds to really wipe out the effect of the few early season rounds that went into his current 970s.

I could see it more if you were saying he could be throwing 1010 rated rounds consistently at the end of the year, but I don't see him ending the year in the 1010 range in terms of his actual rating.

Jay Dub 07-16-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3607858)
He's definitely been aided by the Coronavirus break. Months of additional training before piling tour rounds on his number. I still don't see 1010. Additionally given the smaller tour schedule moving forward: I'm not sure he'll play enough rounds to really wipe out the effect of the few early season rounds that went into his current 970s.

I could see it more if you were saying he could be throwing 1010 rated rounds consistently at the end of the year, but I don't see him ending the year in the 1010 range in terms of his actual rating.

Be careful saying things like this in this thread.

All hail Brodie!! :rolleyes:

ChrisWoj 07-16-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Dub (Post 3607860)
Be careful saying things like this in this thread.

All hail Brodie!! :rolleyes:

Its in line with what I've been saying in this thread since January, no one's bashed me for it before.

wims 07-16-2020 12:02 PM

There's a pretty big gap between 970 and 1010. It's a really tough climb for most players

DiscFifty 07-16-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3607858)
He's definitely been aided by the Coronavirus break. Months of additional training before piling tour rounds on his number. I still don't see 1010. Additionally given the smaller tour schedule moving forward: I'm not sure he'll play enough rounds to really wipe out the effect of the few early season rounds that went into his current 970s.

I could see it more if you were saying he could be throwing 1010 rated rounds consistently at the end of the year, but I don't see him ending the year in the 1010 range in terms of his actual rating.

If he chooses only elite tournaments with high rated players, I could see 1000+ sooner than later. If he was aided by the Coronavirus I'm guessing he was debilitated by Lyme disease.

robdeforge 07-16-2020 12:23 PM

Brodie being newer to the sport doesn't mean that his opinion should totally and summarily be discounted. It IS, however, something that definitely should be factored in as context when listening to his thoughts. Does anybody have a summary of what he has said on the issue (in the podcast with paul, at least)? I looked through this thread quickly and didn't see anything but don't feel like watching the whole video...

ChrisWoj 07-16-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3607892)
If he chooses only elite tournaments with high rated players, I could see 1000+ sooner than later. If he was aided by the Coronavirus I'm guessing he was debilitated by Lyme disease.

That's a valid point - though I'd argue the relatively few rounds he plays that are low rated due to Lyme complications would have been outnumbered by the lower rated rounds he played as he developed his feel for the disc golf discs and their flights. No way to be sure, but a healthy Brodie shot 970s at his debut. I don't think it would have been ridiculous to assume a month or more of playing at the sub 1000 level. If the 3.5 months of work between those events took him to somewhere between 970s and that 1018 first round at DDO - then he's managed to bypass a few months of regular though not necessarily every week sub-1000 play that would have impeded him in the quest for 4 digits in the 2020 calendar year.

brutalbrutus 07-16-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3607899)
Brodie being newer to the sport doesn't mean that his opinion should totally and summarily be discounted. It IS, however, something that definitely should be factored in as context when listening to his thoughts. Does anybody have a summary of what he has said on the issue (in the podcast with paul, at least)? I looked through this thread quickly and didn't see anything but don't feel like watching the whole video...

There are shorter clip versions of the podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/c/GripLockedPodcast/videos

nrihan 07-16-2020 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3607858)
He's definitely been aided by the Coronavirus break. Months of additional training before piling tour rounds on his number. I still don't see 1010. Additionally given the smaller tour schedule moving forward: I'm not sure he'll play enough rounds to really wipe out the effect of the few early season rounds that went into his current 970s.

I could see it more if you were saying he could be throwing 1010 rated rounds consistently at the end of the year, but I don't see him ending the year in the 1010 range in terms of his actual rating.

Helps his "brand" to not go out on tour and get smoked every week. Sell some Zones in between showings etc.. He has benefited from COVID offseason 2.0 for sure.

robdeforge 07-17-2020 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3608134)
There are shorter clip versions of the podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/c/GripLockedPodcast/videos

thanks :)

I will say I would be more convinced if they talked about other courses more, and not just a basically brand new one that obviously could use some changing up of par 4s

DiscFifty 07-17-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nrihan (Post 3608152)
Helps his "brand" to not go out on tour and get smoked every week.

As a long time Brodie fan, I disagree. I think it serves his brand perfectly to be the guy trying to improve and his fans watching his progress along the way. It's ok if he comes in 1st or last, as long as we think he's putting in the time. If he came in DFL @ a DGPT event, if his round was covered and he was also mic'd up to hear his comments, that would be an entertaining video to watch. I'm guessing Brodie is more concerned with views than ratings.

ChrisWoj 07-17-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3608241)
As a long time Brodie fan, I disagree. I think it serves his brand perfectly to be the guy trying to improve and his fans watching his progress along the way. It's ok if he comes in 1st or last, as long as we think he's putting in the time. If he came in DFL @ a DGPT event, if his round was covered and he was also mic'd up to hear his comments, that would be an entertaining video to watch. I'm guessing Brodie is more concerned with views than ratings.

I'd say he's concerned about his rating because he sees how it can impact his views. He has his legions, but he knows he needs to show out to keep and continue to draw disc golfers to his product.

Emoney 07-17-2020 02:01 PM

Brodie is too competitive to not care about winning/ratings.

Also, the more rounds he posts with his foundation buddies helps you understand why the chubby guy left.
He is a relentless corny trash talking BRO. Some ppl can take it, others cant.

ILUVSMGS18 07-18-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3608473)
Brodie is too competitive to not care about winning/ratings.

Also, the more rounds he posts with his foundation buddies helps you understand why the chubby guy left.
He is a relentless corny trash talking BRO. Some ppl can take it, others cant.

Seems like I'd fit in well then. Any idea how to convince them?

wolfhaley 07-18-2020 07:07 PM

Got 500 bucks?

Emoney 07-18-2020 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfhaley (Post 3608819)
Got 500 bucks?

Isnt is 500$ for 6 months? Lol

wolfhaley 07-18-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3608837)
Isnt is 500$ for 6 months? Lol

Who knows. You better get a "get freaky" zone with it for that price.

Plankeye 07-18-2020 10:13 PM

His round today is currently rated 994. Currently tied for 9th but 2 throws away from 4th place.

Jolt 07-19-2020 08:26 AM

1009 for E . . wow thats a hard course

Nick Pacific 07-19-2020 08:47 AM

Barry Schultz in 2nd place one stroke off the lead (Paul McBeth of course) @ age 50. Man that guy is really inspiring. What he's continuing to do should be a lot bigger of a story in disc golf than what it is. But I think in order to get any traction in media in disc golf you basically have to be your own megaphone, and he's always been pretty content to lay low and fly under the radar.

ChrisWoj 07-19-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3608887)
Barry Schultz in 2nd place one stroke off the lead (Paul McBeth of course) @ age 50. Man that guy is really inspiring. What he's continuing to do should be a lot bigger of a story in disc golf than what it is. But I think in order to get any traction in media in disc golf you basically have to be your own megaphone, and he's always been pretty content to lay low and fly under the radar.

Might be a great case for the people who want to cry about rating inflation... Barry is consistently rated higher now than he was when he started winning USDGCs around the age of 30.

Nick Pacific 07-19-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankeye (Post 3608850)
His round today is currently rated 994. Currently tied for 9th but 2 throws away from 4th place.

Anyone out there filming? Foundation?

Plankeye 07-19-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3608987)
Anyone out there filming? Foundation?

Yes...they filmed lead card. Video will be released this week

aredoubles 07-19-2020 08:22 PM

His second round was worse, unofficially 944-rated, tied for 14th place out of 32. Looking at the hole-by-hole scoring, he faded badly down the closing stretch. Hard to say if that was Lyme-related or not.

Plankeye 07-19-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aredoubles (Post 3609021)
His second round was worse, unofficially 944-rated, tied for 14th place out of 32. Looking at the hole-by-hole scoring, he faded badly down the closing stretch. Hard to say if that was Lyme-related or not.

I would guess so. The heat index today was over 105 and there is lots of elevation changes.

Scwebby also DNF'd. I think I saw that Schewbby posted somewhere that he wasn't feeling well

robdeforge 07-20-2020 09:03 AM

https://i.imgur.com/gjfmwzg.png

~50 people
0 masks
0 social distancing

Dcinmd 07-20-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3609103)

~50 people
0 masks
0 social distancing

I see two masks. Unfortunately there around their necks.

Group photos during a pandemic is a horrible decision.

TheOtherBill 07-20-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcinmd (Post 3609129)
I see two masks. Unfortunately there around their necks.

Group photos during a pandemic is a horrible decision.

AND NO AFRICAN AMERICANS EITHER!!

;):D;)

Monocacy 07-20-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcinmd (Post 3609129)
I see two masks. Unfortunately there around their necks.

Group photos during a pandemic is a horrible decision.

Agreed. I have lost a lot of respect for Paul, Brodie, and the Foundation folks. :wall:

biscoe 07-20-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcinmd (Post 3609129)
I see two masks. Unfortunately there around their necks.

Group photos during a pandemic is a horrible decision.

Agreed.

This stands in complete counterpoint to the behavior I have seen firsthand at the events I have run/attended since we came back from shutdown. (and I am only a couple hours away) Players in this area have been very conscientious about social distancing.

Jay Dub 07-20-2020 12:22 PM

Brodie held his breath the whole time so it's not his fault.

brutalbrutus 07-21-2020 09:39 PM

He's going to be on the rd1 live card at DGLO this weekend.

WeatherWimp 07-21-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3609755)
He's going to be on the rd1 live card at DGLO this weekend.

Interesting, I may need to try to watch that if I get the time. Iíve seen a few of his videos but never seen him actually play before. Also need to get my grip6 picks in, though I guess Iím not even sure they are doing that for this tournament.

brutalbrutus 07-21-2020 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WeatherWimp (Post 3609764)
Interesting, I may need to try to watch that if I get the time. I’ve seen a few of his videos but never seen him actually play before. Also need to get my grip6 picks in, though I guess I’m not even sure they are doing that for this tournament.

Its on the DGN subscription service the first two rounds, if you don't have a sub already. It doesn't appear that they have the purchase one event option that they had up for DD Open. So it would be 8.99 unless you're a current pdga member then its 50% off. You would get Idlewild and Ledgestone for that one month fee also...

nothinbuttree 07-22-2020 01:32 AM

Will be interesting to see if his Lyme issues recur. Toboggan is pretty wide open, long, and has lots of ups and downs--quite the strain. Not much hiding from that late July sun out there...

brutalbrutus 07-22-2020 01:46 AM

Looks like it will be partly cloudy on sat and sun that might help. Looks like it may even rain sunday...

DiscFifty 07-22-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3608473)
Brodie is too competitive to not care about winning/ratings.

Or maybe it's part of the entertainment value he wants us to perceive. He's fairly self deprecating when it comes to his playing, that's one way to thin out the haters by critiquing himself negatively so they don't have to.

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3609755)
He's going to be on the rd1 live card at DGLO this weekend.

Nice, looking forward to it.


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