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ODRB 09-30-2021 12:14 PM

If you deconstruct one, you will see that it is a structural clone. Sure, they changed up some pockets etc., and cheaped out on things like webbing and material quality (not all zippers or denier nylon is the same). But that isn't what makes the bag work--that stuff they lifted.

You will see. You will see.

TurnedOver 09-30-2021 12:40 PM

It's good for us that someone is offering a more affordable Pound style bag.

ODRB 09-30-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnedOver (Post 3757967)
It's good for us that someone is offering a more affordable Pound style bag.

If we use Napster, no one will ever have to pay creators for their music ever again!

Vote with your wallets.

A company dedicated to the sport, to integrity, and to its customers.

Or a company that LITERALLY bought a Pound bag, took it apart, and had a Chinese factory knock it off. I wish Squatch all the best, as soon as they design their own product.

chevis 09-30-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ODRB (Post 3757977)
If we use Napster, no one will ever have to pay creators for their music ever again!

Vote with your wallets.

A company dedicated to the sport, to integrity, and to its customers.

i really wish capitalism works this way, but most of the time customers & producers only see dollar signs.

HarkeyPuck 09-30-2021 02:26 PM

Pound is made in USA, by disc golf enthusiasts. Plus Lifetime warranty. Thatís enough for me to pay extra over a bag copied and made overseas in China.

Buying the cheapest version made overseas is a big reason there are almost no manufacturing jobs in the states anymore.

HarkeyPuck 09-30-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowBot (Post 3757782)
Bruh, you blind? Look at the zipper flap on top of the putter quiver. It is sewn to the body of the bag on the FRONT of the bag. Pound sews that flap to the BACK of the bag. Totally opposite and not a ripoff.

Looking at the front of the bag, the Squatch does not have a bungee or a mini slot. The Pound Octothorpe has both of those features on the front. So it's like an entirely different design.

The flap-closure phone pocket on the Squatch is unique, not similar to any of the pockets on the Octo. Zero theft.

Straps are different, too. Octothorpe straps have webbing all the way up that connects to the top of the bag's body. The webbing on the Squatch strap ends a few inches above the sternum buckle. So that's a different strap design, or else they ran out of webbing.

How can the Squatch cooler insert be "stolen" from the Pound design? The Pound cooler insert doesn't even have a top closure!

So in summary: it's a completely different frolf pack. Not at all a direct and shameless copy of the Pound bag.

This is a bit ingenuous from a guy who’s owned 2 Pound bags. I know why you posted this, but come on.

Emoney 09-30-2021 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HarkeyPuck (Post 3757999)
Pound is made in USA, by disc golf enthusiasts. Plus Lifetime warranty. That’s enough for me to pay extra over a bag copied and made overseas in China.

Buying the cheapest version made overseas is a big reason there are almost no manufacturing jobs in the states anymore.

Squatch also has lifetime warranty. The Pound bag is not "a little extra", it's double the price of a Squatch...with the same materials.

In this case I don't feel the "China vs U.S" is the main problem.... the problem is a $500 backpack...makes it very easy to undercut.

Countchunkula 09-30-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HarkeyPuck (Post 3757999)
Pound is made in USA, by disc golf enthusiasts. Plus Lifetime warranty. Thatís enough for me to pay extra over a bag copied and made overseas in China.

Buying the cheapest version made overseas is a big reason there are almost no manufacturing jobs in the states anymore.

Yep it's a race to the bottom. You can (and should) blame Walmart and Amazon, but American consumers also played a part. Too good to be true is too good to be true.

ODRB 09-30-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Emoney (Post 3758023)
Squatch also has lifetime warranty. The Pound bag is not "a little extra", it's double the price of a Squatch...with the same materials.

Squatch does not have a lifetime warranty. It might be labelled a lifetime warranty, but it's actually an original owner, if properly registered, and subject to limitations warranty. So, not the same.

They are not using the same materials. There are many versions and quality variations between different brands of Cordura denier nylon. Same for zippers. Same for webbing. So, again, not the same.

I'm all for Squatch designing a product and bringing it to market at a lower price. You know, like Grip does. And Upper Park. And others. Several others.

Maybe someday Squatch will do that. Until then, eff these guys.

jakebake91 09-30-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HarkeyPuck (Post 3757999)

Buying the cheapest version made overseas is a big reason there are almost no manufacturing jobs in the states anymore.

Having spent my lifetime in American manufacturing, I hear this a lot.

But yet, I've never had to look for a job. Even in the middle of a pandemic, I walked out of one job and had another as soon as I wanted it.

The paper mill I started working at 13 years ago has had a permanent help wanted sign in their yard since before they hired me. It hasn't moved.

Are their fewer manufacturing jobs stateside than there were decades ago? I won't argue that there isn't. However, there are certainly way less people willing to work those jobs these days too.

Look up the stats on the American manufacturing skills gaps. It's remarkable.


/endrant


Sorry. Got us off track here.....


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