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R-Ogre 04-11-2022 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3802721)
So I think the tesla isn't headwind resistant enough.. I'm still going to fill my bag with em though. As long as the wind is moderate I'm alright. I don't get enough wind and open courses in regular play to dial it in so I didn't expect my tesla to flip.

I am going to start packing the 168 entropy.

So you folks who play gyro and shy away from full weight what's my best bet? I'm barely at 300' clocked a bunch at 280' in the tourney... I'd like something a little flat/thumber friendly. I need more headwind resistance than a 163 fission tesla.

Should I get a light beefy disc? Looking at a 158-162 wrath or defy... start throwing a heavy volt or relay? Slow speed or max distance? 165g is kind of my max weight but I can make a heavy relay work alright..

The old fella (20yrs my senior) I played with was throwing a shryke I think, nice clean 250 ish and he made no mistakes and beat me by 7 strokes. He used the turn and fade beautifully.

I dunno how it compares in stability to the Tesla (some dude on the Wrath thread thought it was less stable) but current run wraths are coming out beautifully flat and I got one way down at 157. Really good disc for forehand. Slots right into the flat, lightweight thunderbird spot that I canít find in stores anymore.

jakebake91 04-11-2022 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3802721)
So I think the tesla isn't headwind resistant enough.. I'm still going to fill my bag with em though. As long as the wind is moderate I'm alright. I don't get enough wind and open courses in regular play to dial it in so I didn't expect my tesla to flip.

I am going to start packing the 168 entropy.

So you folks who play gyro and shy away from full weight what's my best bet? I'm barely at 300' clocked a bunch at 280' in the tourney... I'd like something a little flat/thumber friendly. I need more headwind resistance than a 163 fission tesla.

Should I get a light beefy disc? Looking at a 158-162 wrath or defy... start throwing a heavy volt or relay? Slow speed or max distance? 165g is kind of my max weight but I can make a heavy relay work alright..

The old fella (20yrs my senior) I played with was throwing a shryke I think, nice clean 250 ish and he made no mistakes and beat me by 7 strokes. He used the turn and fade beautifully.

I throw a bit further, and waves are my standard distance driver. Into a decent headwind, I disc up to a Mayhem. Similar stability, just faster. I end up with a similar flight.

ray1970 04-11-2022 01:54 PM

MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread) (Part V)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3802721)
So I think the tesla isn't headwind resistant enough.. I'm still going to fill my bag with em though. As long as the wind is moderate I'm alright. I don't get enough wind and open courses in regular play to dial it in so I didn't expect my tesla to flip.

I am going to start packing the 168 entropy.

So you folks who play gyro and shy away from full weight what's my best bet? I'm barely at 300' clocked a bunch at 280' in the tourney... I'd like something a little flat/thumber friendly. I need more headwind resistance than a 163 fission tesla.

Should I get a light beefy disc? Looking at a 158-162 wrath or defy... start throwing a heavy volt or relay? Slow speed or max distance? 165g is kind of my max weight but I can make a heavy relay work alright..

The old fella (20yrs my senior) I played with was throwing a shryke I think, nice clean 250 ish and he made no mistakes and beat me by 7 strokes. He used the turn and fade beautifully.


Well, I donít mean to burst your bubble or deny you the opportunity to purchase new plastic, butÖ.

If youíre playing the same course as the old dude throwing a Shryke and he isnít struggling with that disc in the wind then your stuff is either super flippy or you werenít playing the wind very well that day.

Iím an old guy but I donít really have any physical limitations that make throwing lighter discs a necessity yet so everything I bag is pretty close to max weight.

I usually opt for control over distance when its windy. For me, its usually a max weight lucid Felon. When the wind is under 20 mph Iíll usually hit it flat and just let it ride. 20+ and Iíll start it on hyzer and let it flip up and go.

Since youíre an MVP guy, my wife uses a light weight Fireball and it handles the stupidest winds quite well for her. (Side note: she also recently discovered that she can throw it low and flat and count on a big flare skip when she needs it so she seems to break it out more and more lately.)

Erknjerk 04-11-2022 02:30 PM

My 157 Fireball was my go to with the 25+ headwinds this weekend. I used to Tesla & Wrath for straight & flippy lines.

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ThrowaEnvy 04-11-2022 07:45 PM

Thanks a bunch for all the input!!!

Yeah I read that wrath thing as well about being less stable.. Sounds like a decent disc.

I can totally see the mayhem being a longer wave, I've had good luck with it before in the wind. Little turn little fade, fairly easy to compensate for the fade with extra turn. It's the high speed driver I wish I could throw or that they'd make in a light weight.

I'm heavily encouraged by the fireball testimonials, I had one a while back at 166 and it was beefy. The description is "a more stable tesla", with a nice wind numbers 9 3.5 0 3

Glad to hear it works for a wife and a headwind. Could have some utility usefulness, I've heard its a more mellow or longer firebird.

R-Ogre 04-11-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowaEnvy (Post 3802807)
Thanks a bunch for all the input!!!

Yeah I read that wrath thing as well about being less stable.. Sounds like a decent disc.

I can totally see the mayhem being a longer wave, I've had good luck with it before in the wind. Little turn little fade, fairly easy to compensate for the fade with extra turn. It's the high speed driver I wish I could throw or that they'd make in a light weight.

I'm heavily encouraged by the fireball testimonials, I had one a while back at 166 and it was beefy. The description is "a more stable tesla", with a nice wind numbers 9 3.5 0 3

Glad to hear it works for a wife and a headwind. Could have some utility usefulness, I've heard its a more mellow or longer firebird.

Can you find fireballs right now? I was kinda looking for them at one point and didnít have much luck. But then again thatís kinda the story of any mold the last couple years.

mas30066 04-11-2022 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Ogre (Post 3802812)
Can you find fireballs right now? I was kinda looking for them at one point and didnít have much luck. But then again thatís kinda the story of any mold the last couple years.

There were a bunch in Neutron and Proton at our local shop today (and a ton of linked retailers on trydiscs), so I'm thinking there's been a recent production run.

And FWIW, Ray's wife is apparently who I want to be when I grow up: huge admiration for her being able to deploy the Fireball effectively.

ray1970 04-11-2022 10:51 PM

MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread) (Part V)
 
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Originally Posted by mas30066 (Post 3802825)
And FWIW, Ray's wife is apparently who I want to be when I grow up: huge admiration for her being able to deploy the Fireball effectively.

Lol. Thanks.

She only really started playing last summer but sheís progressing nicely. Still has a lot of room to improve but sheís getting better all the time.

The Fireball was a disc that she wanted because it was pretty and I couldnít explain it to her at the time that it was likely not going to be a good disc for her. When she found herself pinched off in a bad spot and didnít know what to do I would kind of instruct her on how to throw the Fireball to get back into a good spot. Basically, it only came out when I suggested that it was her best option. Now she is starting to figure out what it can and canít do for her and I see her starting to use it more and more. I think her favorite use for it is a low, flat shot that she knows is going to hit the ground and flare hard right. (Sheís a lefty. Me trying to tutor her as a lefty has its own set of challenges.)

ThrowaEnvy 04-11-2022 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Ogre (Post 3802812)
Can you find fireballs right now? I was kinda looking for them at one point and didnít have much luck. But then again thatís kinda the story of any mold the last couple years.

Yeah I saw a couple 157's.. Kinda thinking that might be the way to go. At least that's the way I'm leaning, 9 3.5 0 3.5 sounds a little crazy but who knows at 158g it should be decent.

I'm kinda wondering about the defy still -1 turn at speed 11 is appealing. 11 5 -1 3 is also a natural step up. I still like wide rims even though it's out of my wheelhouse.

Haha I found a cute matched set actually. Reverse colors defy and fireball. Haha cute, haha ha. I can't erase it now... :D

adriens95 04-11-2022 11:04 PM

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I finally pulled the trigger and bought a Hex to slot between my beefy Z Buzzz and Meteor. Hoping to get out and throw it soon but Iím already loving the slimmer feel versus my Z Buzzz- more like the ESP I have.


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