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ThrowaEnvy 10-11-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dehaas (Post 3843474)
Forgot to mention the wave I’m throwing is a 158 cosmic neutron. It’s surprisingly stable for its weight, figured it’d be a flip machine initially but it flies pretty much like my plasma insanities but just a bit longer.

Aaah yes it's a good complement that way.. Almost any other wave will be less stable. I haven't seen a fresh cosmic run, I think those came out same time as the beefy cosmic relays. Most of my waves are 155g flip machines.. Plasma is my most flippy, my fission is close behind, neutron is straight, cosmic is stable.

Picked up a fission 147g wave SE it's the least stable obviously haha. The 162g fizz throws like my 155 neutron, but I think when you go heavier than 165 you start to get the extra fission stability.

Keith H 10-11-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dehaas (Post 3843451)
Now that some of the recent fission runs have been out for a while what has been the consensus?

Mostly interested in the crave, insanity, Tesla, wave, and octane.

My local PIAS had skipped a couple mvp releases over the summer and just got a big shipment in, so I finally got to feel some of these up the other day. All were fairly domey, not sure how I feel about that.

Iím basically looking for something with a bit more flip than my regular throwers. Mid 160ís cosmic neutron crave is a laser beam to 350, upper 160ís plasma insanity out to 375. Been working on backhand a ton so havenít really been throwing much faster than an insanity or tesla.

Ultimately Iíd like something that will flip and hold the turn a bit longer. Insanity and crave will track slightly but pretty much go straight with slight fade at the end.

I like the fission crave quite well, almost as much as the Proton Crave. I'm not a big arm, but after a short break in period and a rough up on the teepad, my light Fission Craves both developed quite a bit of controllable turn with a very straight forward fade. Unfortunately one of the two is now sleeping with the fishes.

Muiriddin 10-11-2022 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith H (Post 3843489)
sleeping with the fishes.

Darn merpeople love disc golf as much as we do!

lee76007 10-12-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dehaas (Post 3843451)
Now that some of the recent fission runs have been out for a while what has been the consensus?

Mostly interested in the crave, insanity, Tesla, wave, and octane.

My local PIAS had skipped a couple mvp releases over the summer and just got a big shipment in, so I finally got to feel some of these up the other day. All were fairly domey, not sure how I feel about that.

I’m basically looking for something with a bit more flip than my regular throwers. Mid 160’s cosmic neutron crave is a laser beam to 350, upper 160’s plasma insanity out to 375. Been working on backhand a ton so haven’t really been throwing much faster than an insanity or tesla.

Ultimately I’d like something that will flip and hold the turn a bit longer. Insanity and crave will track slightly but pretty much go straight with slight fade at the end.

I'll ditto Throwaenvy. Since April I've been flipping my bag to MVP/Axiom. The Wave's are my main driver now. Up until last week a Wave 171 and 174 were my main drivers. Both dead straight in the beginning, the 171 after 4 months of use started getting to flippy on me and turning, so I traded it in for a Fission Hex, worked it on the practice field today and dead straight. I pulled the 174 and to spend some time with a Plasma Wave 171 and love it.

I still have a Fission Wave 162 and its a beauty I can flip it and flex it for the best distance out of my Wave's. However, its not the best distance out of my bag, that still belongs to a Star Mamba 149g out distancing the Wave 162 by about 50 feet. I do have a Wave 153, and 156 not yet thrown. I have alot of this disc vs that disc going on, so there on hold. What I did do was order a Wave 149 arriving next week, so starting next week Star Mamba vs Fission Wave at the 149g class, stay tuned. The Star Mamba I've been throwing for 2 1/2 years, an advantage there.

The Fission Tesla just like Throwaenvy said dead straight, and it out distance my Proton Vanish on the same line, Vanish with fade, so I traded it in for the Hex.

Out of my 27 disc bag, 23 are now MVP/Axiom. I've done a lot of sorting it out, and still doing so among the different plastics. The folks at my local PIAS know my first name when I walk in the door.

discerdoo 10-13-2022 09:42 PM

I'm really digging the heavy fission Hex after a few rounds with fairly light use. I've messed around a bit with fission Waves and hadn't noticed much difference in durability vs neutron. This Hex seems to be taking more damage than a comparable neutron though, both the overmold and core on bottom.

Is this common for most fission?

zendragon 10-13-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by discerdoo (Post 3844257)
I'm really digging the heavy fission Hex after a few rounds with fairly light use. I've messed around a bit with fission Waves and hadn't noticed much difference in durability vs neutron. This Hex seems to be taking more damage than a comparable neutron though, both the overmold and core on bottom.

Is this common for most fission?

I think all premium plastic just depends on what you hit and the angle you hit it at. My Fission Crave has quite a large rash from one of the first throws with it, but otherwise has held up up pretty well. Sometimes it just happens. I have some discs that I've hit tons of trees and they never get more than a slight scuff, but then other in the same plastic get a nice gouge from the same trees.

ThrowaEnvy 10-13-2022 09:55 PM

Oh man, I snaked an electron envy over some rocks on the 5th throw.. I gave it away, I've got 4 others that have never gouged like that over years sometimes it's just bad luck.

Stable 10-14-2022 12:14 PM

What would be a good MVP/Axiom replacement for a Buzzz? Worth mentioning that the Buzzz's I'm used to lean slightly os. I was thinking about getting a neutron Matrix.

I keep growing more annoyed by Discraft's engraving under the rim. The Buzzz would be the most difficult to replace but I'd like to find something from MVP/Axiom to make a switch.

strunk flugget 10-14-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stable (Post 3844378)
What would be a good MVP/Axiom replacement for a Buzzz? Worth mentioning that the Buzzz's I'm used to lean slightly os. I was thinking about getting a neutron Matrix.

I keep growing more annoyed by Discraft's engraving under the rim. The Buzzz would be the most difficult to replace but I'd like to find something from MVP/Axiom to make a switch.

Hex is probably the most like for like replacement to a buzzz. I threw my buzzz and Hex side by side and the flights were almost identical. If you are looking a tad more OS than the Hex look at a Neutron or Fission reactor (Eclipse reactors are OS). The other day I threw a fission reactor and Hex on the same hole...pretty much same distance but the Reactor was 20 feet further left.

discerdoo 10-14-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stable (Post 3844378)
What would be a good MVP/Axiom replacement for a Buzzz? Worth mentioning that the Buzzz's I'm used to lean slightly os. I was thinking about getting a neutron Matrix.

I keep growing more annoyed by Discraft's engraving under the rim. The Buzzz would be the most difficult to replace but I'd like to find something from MVP/Axiom to make a switch.

Reactor would be a slightly OS Buzzz, Hex a slightly US Buzzz. I've bagged all three and both of the gyro discs are superior for FH, IMO. Not that the Buzzz feels bad with a FH grip but the Reactor and Hex just feel better to me. I've only thrown the Reactor in eclipse, neutron might be a touch less stable. Never thrown a Matrix.

Side note - Discraft's rim tooling has never triggered my OCD. :)


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