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wims 11-16-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by da Crippler (Post 3657338)
Nobody cares and I'm getting Brodie fatigue. He's just too obnoxious to last in the spotlight much longer.:\

Then why come to the Brody Smith thread? It seems like a lot care considering the fact that this thread has 269k views

Keller 11-16-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wims (Post 3657487)
Then why come to the Brody Smith thread? It seems like a lot care considering the fact that this thread has 269k views

Perhaps the same reason I peak in on FOX news every now and then; just want to know what the other folks think. ;)

autocrosscrx 11-16-2020 04:46 PM

For the most part, the extent of the Brodie conversation here is from people saying that they are tired of talking about Brodie.

He does a vid or an interview and you either watch it or you don't watch it. He plays some tourneys and you probably don't watch it because he is a couple of cards back. Which is fine. And some people buy and sell some discs. And that is really it.

Jay Dub 11-16-2020 06:04 PM

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Brodie's last 5 rounds have averaged 1007.
The thread was dead for 5 days when this was posted. People reacting are reacting to this bump from yesterday.

The title says "Brodie Smith...", not "Only people who like Brodie Smith...". Part of Brodie's story are the people who don't like him or his super fans or who think he's not that big of deal for disc golf, which is what the thread was about also.

DiscFifty 11-17-2020 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hanger129 (Post 3657484)
Looks like Brodie's gonna hit 1000 rated before the end of the year assuming he doesn't implode at his next two events. Placed 2nd in his most recent tournament beating out Emerson Keith and G.T. Hancock by 2 strokes. Surprising or overhyped?

He's probably over 1000 right now. He has 2 more events for 2020. I don't think he's overhyped because no one seems to care how good he actually becomes. I think the more media worthy debate is how long he sticks with disc golf, mainly because of his last 2 failings in the social media world.

Surprising? Definitely surprised at 33 years old & less than 1 year playing serious disc golf he's 1000 rated. His short game/putting is pretty good though.


BuiltTooLong 11-17-2020 10:58 AM

Brodie just signed a 2 year extension with Discraft this morning.

Superbford 11-17-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3657616)
Perhaps the same reason I peak in on FOX news every now and then; just want to know what the other folks think. ;)


watching any national news media these days doesn't really give you any real indication of what anyone thinks... they are all terrible.


Good for Brodie and Discraft. Obviously things are going well enough for them right now to continue a working relationship.

DiscFifty 11-17-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BuiltTooLong (Post 3657982)
Brodie just signed a 2 year extension with Discraft this morning.

Always fun to speculate, but I just don't see him getting a salary like Paul and Paige. Royalties from disc sales, bonuses from tournaments, etc, sure. Then again maybe getting to 1000 rated meant something more financial from DC. :popcorn:

hanger129 11-17-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3658080)
Always fun to speculate, but I just don't see him getting a salary like Paul and Paige. Royalties from disc sales, bonuses from tournaments, etc, sure. Then again maybe getting to 1000 rated meant something more financial from DC. :popcorn:

I doubt there's any financial incentive from Discraft for him to get to 1000-rated. I saw an IG story of his a week or two ago saying something to the effect of "Only 4 rating points to go and get this nonsense over with" which I took to mean "no one thought I could hit 1000-rated in my first year and I'm about to prove you wrong. After that, my rating is basically meaningless."

Also, Brodie's social media following is probably double Paul and Paige's combined, if not more. Considering that, I wouldn't be surprised if he does get a salary from Discraft since all of his content is now disc golf.

Jay Dub 11-17-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hanger129 (Post 3658085)
I doubt there's any financial incentive from Discraft for him to get to 1000-rated. I saw an IG story of his a week or two ago saying something to the effect of "Only 4 rating points to go and get this nonsense over with" which I took to mean "no one thought I could hit 1000-rated in my first year and I'm about to prove you wrong. After that, my rating is basically meaningless."

Also, Brodie's social media following is probably double Paul and Paige's combined, if not more. Considering that, I wouldn't be surprised if he does get a salary from Discraft since all of his content is now disc golf.

"no one thought I could hit 1000-rated in my first year

On the pro tour, not local A tiers. Changing in the middle of the season doesn't prove any point at all. Him and his super fans were saying this would happen against the best. That's not how he got to 1000.

autocrosscrx 11-17-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Dub (Post 3658090)
"no one thought I could hit 1000-rated in my first year

On the pro tour, not local A tiers. Changing in the middle of the season doesn't prove any point at all. Him and his super fans were saying this would happen against the best. That's not how he got to 1000.

You are quoting a very loose interpretation of a paraphrased statement.

On the other side, I'm thinking getting to 1000 will be tougher than he thinks since a couple of those hot 1020 and 1030 rounds will drop from his most recent 25%.

azplaya25 11-17-2020 04:09 PM

Just saw something from him on YouTube that he signed a 2 year contract extension with discraft

araytx 11-17-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Dub (Post 3658090)
"no one thought I could hit 1000-rated in my first year

On the pro tour, not local A tiers. Changing in the middle of the season doesn't prove any point at all. Him and his super fans were saying this would happen against the best. That's not how he got to 1000.

A 1000-rating is a 1000-rating. He's a 1000-rated player. Against any field. WHERE he got those doesn't matter. PDGA rating is not a criterion-referenced construct. It's norm-referenced.

ILUVSMGS18 11-18-2020 01:35 AM

I like his 2 year extension. Means that my now trusty Get Freaky will be availible long enough for me to rack up enough backups should I lose some.

I really like the predictable smallish (compared to puddled Z and flat Z Zones) skip that these get. Makes parking 125-200' FH approaches super easy.

DiscFifty 11-19-2020 12:41 AM

https://factorystore.discraft.com/co...s/brodie-smith

Product dropped today and already sold out?

"If you purchase more, your order will be canceled. Bot buyers beware, we will be banning users who attempt to abuse the system."

I don't bag Discraft, but I'm starting to think someone is experimenting with social media marketing/branding by building a bit of false product demand. I guess it could be legit, by only pumping out very small runs so they can increase the "sold out" hype. hmm....

https://factorystore.discraft.com/

They have a section just for Brodie, but nothing for Paul or Paige? :confused:

But then... no Brodie on this page: :confused:
https://www.team.discraft.com/team-discraft

McCready 11-19-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3659121)
https://factorystore.discraft.com/co...s/brodie-smith

Product dropped today and already sold out?

"If you purchase more, your order will be canceled. Bot buyers beware, we will be banning users who attempt to abuse the system."

I don't bag Discraft, but I'm starting to think someone is experimenting with social media marketing/branding by building a bit of false product demand. I guess it could be legit, by only pumping out very small runs so they can increase the "sold out" hype. hmm....

https://factorystore.discraft.com/

They have a section just for Brodie, but nothing for Paul or Paige? :confused:

But then... no Brodie on this page: :confused:
https://www.team.discraft.com/team-discraft

This is truly hilarious. Peak ‘Murica right here. Love it.

muptonfish 11-19-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSMGS18 (Post 3658581)
I like his 2 year extension. Means that my now trusty Get Freaky will be availible long enough for me to rack up enough backups should I lose some.

I really like the predictable smallish (compared to puddled Z and flat Z Zones) skip that these get. Makes parking 125-200' FH approaches super easy.

Do you have one of his FLX Zones? I saw them at my local shop a couple and was tempted but didn't pull the trigger. I bag an ESP Zone and wondered how much different it was.

ILUVSMGS18 11-19-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by muptonfish (Post 3659325)
Do you have one of his FLX Zones? I saw them at my local shop a couple and was tempted but didn't pull the trigger. I bag an ESP Zone and wondered how much different it was.

Yeah. Nice bit of gummy softness to it. My only experince with ESP is a puddle topped AT series and that thing skips like crazy amd is crazy OS.

DiscJunkie 11-19-2020 07:48 PM

Not sure about these particular FLX Zones, but my experience is that FLX Zones are more overstable than Z Zones.

I hear the older ESP Zones are some of the most OS, so these FLX Zones might be right up your alley.
And a FLX Zone will not skip like an ESP.

Hampstead 11-19-2020 08:54 PM

I am blissfully unaware of his social media content or tournament coverage. Don't be jealous.

wolfhaley 11-20-2020 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hampstead (Post 3659479)
I am blissfully unaware of his social media content or tournament coverage. Don't be jealous.

I kinda am though. I'm more jealous of your knowledge of south American psych rock or zambian blues 😉

discerdoo 11-20-2020 08:45 AM

I'm digging my Bro-D RB Roach in the limited time I've played in the last month. But I was asking for a Roach in this type plastic since before he signed his first DG contract.

Also like my freaky Zone. Flies like a Zone and sticks pretty well, what's not to like?

Meillo 11-20-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3659121)
https://factorystore.discraft.com/

They have a section just for Brodie, but nothing for Paul or Paige? :confused:

But then... no Brodie on this page: :confused:
https://www.team.discraft.com/team-discraft

For Discraft he's mainly a marketing genius/instrument, probably. It doesn't much matter if he's employed for marketing or sponsored as a player. The result matters. It does work out ... and Discraft is wise to let him do it his own way! (This is what positively impresses me much about Discraft!)

Besides that, he's a (not too bad) player, but to Discraft this side doesn't matter really currently. If he'd really compete on the Pro Tour that'll change.

In any way, Brodie is a strange outlier, and thus makes his own rules.

DiscFifty 11-21-2020 11:41 PM

First 2 rounds @ The Open at Belton, Brodie's averaging a rating of 1028.

DiscFifty 11-22-2020 08:32 PM

Finished in 11th place but still managed an avg rating of 1010 per round.
https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/43463

autocrosscrx 11-22-2020 08:42 PM

Ezra went off round 2.

Jimb 11-22-2020 09:49 PM

Nice to see Nate Perkins in the top ten and apparently playing well.

Jugular 11-23-2020 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimb (Post 3660453)
Nice to see Nate Perkins in the top ten and apparently playing well.

Was it a RHFH favouring course? Does it require relatively few big backhand drives?
I wonder if Nate's inability to break the bigger tournaments is a sign that distance is valued too highly in those courses? I think his putting is excellent and his consistency of lines is top notch, he just doesn't have a booming backhand.

Nick Pacific 11-23-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimb (Post 3660453)
Nice to see Nate Perkins in the top ten and apparently playing well.

I noticed in the recent GK skins match at Veterans park that his backhand distance looks to be improved and has a little more pop on it

klodkrawler05 11-23-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3660504)
I noticed in the recent GK skins match at Veterans park that his backhand distance looks to be improved and has a little more pop on it

I noticed that too, even compared to just 6 skins videos ago. Although, when you're on a card with Heimburg, Aderhold, GG I guess anyone else would look like they can't throw very far.

On topic: I wonder if we'll see Brodie back on tour at the start of the 2021 DGPT? (answered my own question, he's signed up for DGPT Las Vegas) It should be pretty interesting to see how his second stab at the PT goes. Jumping face first into tournaments at MPO/DGPT level and then getting Lyme etc. wasn't a great first run. Having some extra tournament knowledge and having some smaller events to mix it up with a handful of touring players over the winter months seem like they should all add up to a much better performance this time around.

DiscFifty 11-23-2020 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jugular (Post 3660494)
I wonder if Nate's inability to break the bigger tournaments

Might be a tad controversial comment... but I just don't see Perkins ever making the jump to elite status. He's rated 1009 now, down 12 points the past year. Out of 20 tournaments this year, he's only placed 5th or better in 4, and has had zero wins the past 3 seasons.

Jugular 11-24-2020 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3660942)
Might be a tad controversial comment... but I just don't see Perkins ever making the jump to elite status. He's rated 1009 now, down 12 points the past year. Out of 20 tournaments this year, he's only placed 5th or better in 4, and has had zero wins the past 3 seasons.

I doubt that's controversial, I don't see a reason why he can't return to his previous rating and perhaps a half dozen points more though. From that level he could be contending the odd Major and perhaps take down an NT or two over a few years.

brutalbrutus 12-04-2020 01:04 PM

Be interesting to see how Brodie does tomorrow. He's playing a c/b tier where he is the overwhelming ratings leader. 20pts higher than the next highest rated player.

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/46403

Does he indeed win or does the pressure of "he should win" get to him?...

BillFleming 12-04-2020 01:11 PM

While I don't care for Brodie as a person (I tried talking to him after a tournament and he brushed me off....other pros chatted with me and Brodie wasn't busy or talking to anyone else at the time), I do respect his ability. I also respect his decision to pull out of the pro tour until he gets more experience - at least he tried. Some people seem to think Brodie 'owes' more since he is sponsored by Discraft and tutored by Paul McBeth...but that's not his fault, Discraft wants to profit off his fame/following and Paul chose to teach him.

I wanted to learn how to throw a scoober since there have been a couple of times it would have come in handy. I watched a few videos on it, but it wasn't until I saw Brodie's video that I really understood it....he did an excellent job of describing how to throw it and when/why to throw it.

I wish him the best in the lower tiers and look forward to him getting back to the pro tour.

DiscFifty 12-04-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3664970)
Be interesting to see how Brodie does tomorrow. He's playing a c/b tier where he is the overwhelming ratings leader. 20pts higher than the next highest rated player.

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/46403

Does he indeed win or does the pressure of "he should win" get to him?...

I hope he knows what he's in for, he'll be playing against a field of local club members who can bomb and tear that course up.

BillFleming 12-04-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3664970)
Be interesting to see how Brodie does tomorrow. He's playing a c/b tier where he is the overwhelming ratings leader. 20pts higher than the next highest rated player.

https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/46403

Does he indeed win or does the pressure of "he should win" get to him?...

Having a pro or pros rating 'overwhelm' the rest probably happens frequently....there was a B tier in May 2019 (Watson Skip). The top two Pros were:
Nathan Queen 1011
Jeremy Novak 997
the next pro's rating was 60 less than Jeremy's.

Nathan "walked" away with the win.

Superbford 12-04-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3664976)
I hope he knows what he's in for, he'll be playing against a field of local club members who can bomb and tear that course up.

I wonder if it is a course that Smith is familiar with... there is something to be said for the talented locals that know every nook and cranny of a course.

DiscFifty 12-04-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbford (Post 3665073)
I wonder if it is a course that Smith is familiar with... there is something to be said for the talented locals that know every nook and cranny of a course.

I think his tactics for local events has been to show up a few days early, make a video, learn the course and then play the tournament on the weekend. This course is about 2 hours or so from where he lives so I doubt he's played it that much if at all. It's a gorgeous ball golf type course but only has 1 tournament a year typically.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=4843

DiscFifty 12-04-2020 04:22 PM

Some pretty hot takes on the pro tour from Brodie. Cutting the field after 2nd round, payouts, no next day live coverage. wowza...

https://www.spreaker.com/user/ultiwo...-brodie-output

Norvelljeff 12-04-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3665105)
Some pretty hot takes on the pro tour from Brodie. Cutting the field after 2nd round, payouts, no next day live coverage. wowza...

https://www.spreaker.com/user/ultiwo...-brodie-output

This guy has A LOT to say about a sport he "just" started playing


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