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ru4por 12-18-2020 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3670947)
Can someone define "fanboy" for me? I don't think I'm a Brodie fanboy... but that damn Ezra dude has my eyes glued to his channel, his content is legit and on point. I can't wait to find out who he gets sponsored from. I'm still wondering why my wife is all of a sudden interested in disc golf. :confused: lol...

Somewhere well short of the above obsession?? :p

Nick Pacific 12-19-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3670947)
Can someone define "fanboy" for me? I don't think I'm a Brodie fanboy... but that damn Ezra dude has my eyes glued to his channel, his content is legit and on point. I can't wait to find out who he gets sponsored from. I'm still wondering why my wife is all of a sudden interested in disc golf. :confused: lol...

These dorks are spoiled, I remember the days prior to social media when we had zero discgolf content outside of a blurry VHS tape of Billy Crump commentating over 180 FPS footage, so I can really enjoy and appreciate all of this awesome content.

I kinda feel bad for them actually, they aren't enjoying it nowehere near as much as I am that's for sure. Shame really.

Jay Dub 12-19-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3671008)
These dorks are spoiled, I remember the days prior to social media when we had zero discgolf content outside of a blurry VHS tape of Billy Crump commentating over 180 FPS footage, so I can really enjoy and appreciate all of this awesome content.

I kinda feel bad for them actually, they aren't enjoying it nowehere near as much as I am that's for sure. Shame really.

That's 100% right for me. Enjoy *watching* all you want, like the old days you mentioned I'll *play* the game to get my pleasure out of it. :thmbup:

Back in the old days we were friends with the top players, not fans of theirs. :)

davetherocketguy 12-19-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectacledbear (Post 3670935)
Lots off grumpy old men with unsatisfied lives ventilating in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Keller (Post 3670940)
And a lot of fanboys vicariously living their lives through a loud-mouth

And a 3rd category: Lots of lurkers chuckling at the above two sides. :p

Discbee 12-19-2020 10:11 AM

The more I see of him, he does kind of seem like a douchey frat guy. Maybe he is just shooting for a niche in disc golf lol, however, I would rather see people like Lizotte, Eagle, Mcbeth, and most of the others who are not only top-notch players, but seem like genuinely nice humble people.

davetherocketguy 12-19-2020 01:58 PM

Brodie is a hot take machine lol

jdm0514 12-19-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3671135)
Brodie is a hot take machine lol

I think it's a plan to get more engagement either positive or negative. I mean it's the off season so their isn't much to do or talk about.

DiscFifty 12-19-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jdm0514 (Post 3671154)
I think it's a plan to get more engagement either positive or negative. I mean it's the off season so their isn't much to do or talk about.

I'm guessing his contract with DC is not salary based so any attention is good attention when it comes to viral merchandising of his brand/products.

BrotherDave 12-19-2020 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JuanA (Post 3670801)
Cheering on a disc to roll through a playground?! :wall:

I mean, it's better than a disc flying through the playground since rollers are a lot less likely to maim. :\
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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3670898)
I believe the foundation guys flew from virginia to be with brodie in texas :doh:

The run a business together so yeah, they're going to interact with each other. How is this any worse than a pro disc golf tour?

robdeforge 12-20-2020 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3671225)
The run a business together so yeah, they're going to interact with each other. How is this any worse than a pro disc golf tour?

Huh?

DanJon 12-20-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3671225)
I mean, it's better than a disc flying through the playground since rollers are a lot less likely to maim. :\

The run a business together so yeah, they're going to interact with each other. How is this any worse than a pro disc golf tour?


You can run a business with other people remotely and the pro tour was taking precautions which are not seen on any of Brodie's videos.

Any disc making it's way through a playground could be grounds for getting a local course removed.

"My little Billy was almost hit by a disc, we need to remove all courses in our city that are close to playground equipment."

DiscFifty 12-20-2020 01:55 PM

Ezra and Brodie throw Zones.


BrotherDave 12-20-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DanJon (Post 3671320)
You can run a business with other people remotely and the pro tour was taking precautions which are not seen on any of Brodie's videos.

Any disc making it's way through a playground could be grounds for getting a local course removed.

"My little Billy was almost hit by a disc, we need to remove all courses in our city that are close to playground equipment."

:rolleyes:

robdeforge 12-21-2020 07:50 AM

as somebody who has brought some haterade to this thread, props to brodie for this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ept332jX...jpg&name=large

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3671473)
:rolleyes:

solid insight, solid avatar

BrotherDave 12-22-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3671585)
as somebody who has brought some haterade to this thread, props to brodie for this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ept332jX...jpg&name=large



solid insight, solid avatar

Well people like you and the rest of the covid boot lickers helped kill my grandmother so you'll have to forgive me if I don't feel like having infinity bad faith arguments with y'all anymore.

DiscFifty 12-22-2020 02:16 PM

With nearly 3 million subs (youtube & twitter total), I'm shocked it's less than 30k. As I'm sure so is Brodie. Guessing a small percentage of his subs actually follow him.

ChrisWoj 12-22-2020 02:43 PM

I sub and no longer watch/follow. Had no idea about any of this St. Jude Charity stuff he was doing. Brodie had an interesting narrative: trying to get to 1000 rated in a year. I had fun following it until it became fait accompli. I feel like it told me a lot about the sort of progression we can expect to see as more of the mainstream ulty stars age out and decide to try to transition to DG. I know he isn't the first, nor is he to the first to do it quickly, but he's the first to do it in such an easy to digest way. But now that he's kinda at the stage of small improvements - there's nothing interesting to me left to follow.

jakebake91 12-22-2020 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj (Post 3672121)
I know he isn't the first, nor is he to the first to do it quickly, but he's the first to do it in such an easy to digest way.

I know what you actually meant by this statement. However...."easy to digest" and Brodie Smith don't really go together....

DiscFifty 12-29-2020 07:29 AM

https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...29239699443712
"Sorry guys. I love disc golf and want to be the best. Unfortunately trying to do YouTube and this at the same time wonít work. Iíll still post videos, but as you can see by my lack of Vlogmas. Iím focusing on winning and not so much in YouTube views."

With 2.2m subs and only getting 40-80k views per video every 2 weeks, I'm guessing he is not happy. Not sure I buy the "wanting to be the best" comment, but just in case, does anyone think he can improve his rating by 30-50 points in year 2 and actually become an elite player?

Jay Dub 12-29-2020 07:31 AM

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does anyone think he can improve his rating by 30-50 points in year 2 and actually become an elite player?
Anyone who says no will be called a Brodie hater. :rolleyes:

Nick Pacific 12-29-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3673789)
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...29239699443712
"Sorry guys. I love disc golf and want to be the best. Unfortunately trying to do YouTube and this at the same time won’t work. I’ll still post videos, but as you can see by my lack of Vlogmas. I’m focusing on winning and not so much in YouTube views."

With 2.2m subs and only getting 40-80k views per video every 2 weeks, I'm guessing he is not happy. Not sure I buy the "wanting to be the best" comment, but just in case, does anyone think he can improve his rating by 30-50 points in year 2 and actually become an elite player?

In year two? I'm guessing no. My prediction for year two is 1015, which is still 1.5 strokes improved, pretty solid. I don't see him becoming elite level 1040, I think those two bad knees unfortunately will slow him down as his skills improve. Totally guessing here, but I'd say 1025 range, which will still make him one of the best players in Texas.

I hope he proves me wrong though.

TheOtherBill 12-29-2020 10:20 AM

If he were to become let's say the 3rd highest rated (touring) player in Texas in year 2, that would put him behind Emerson Kieth and Bradley Williams. Both have won Majors/A tiers and pretty sure Bradley still holds the record for most tournys played in a year.
Pretty good company to be among.

autocrosscrx 12-29-2020 10:29 AM

How many people have gone from sub-1000 to 1030+ in a year? I know that Clint Calvin did it this year, but it can't be very many people at all.

I think 1015 to 1020 would be a nice goal and impressive for year 2. I think he is probably too clunky to get to 1030 and he seems like someone that is hardwired to go for it and that isn't always conducive to optimizing your rating.

jakebake91 12-29-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3673789)
https://twitter.com/Brodiesmith21/st...29239699443712
"Sorry guys. I love disc golf and want to be the best. Unfortunately trying to do YouTube and this at the same time wonít work. Iíll still post videos, but as you can see by my lack of Vlogmas. Iím focusing on winning and not so much in YouTube views."

With 2.2m subs and only getting 40-80k views per video every 2 weeks, I'm guessing he is not happy. Not sure I buy the "wanting to be the best" comment, but just in case, does anyone think he can improve his rating by 30-50 points in year 2 and actually become an elite player?


I'm under the impression he thought this would be a cake walk, he'd come in, be an elite star, the face of a sport and rake in what little money there was to rake. Then he realized that, hey, DG is actually kind of tough. I can't compete with these elite guys that have been playing their whole lives.

He talked a big game, and didn't exactly back it up the way he thought he could. So he dropped out of the tour, focused on playing better, and is always making sure the world knows what he's doing.

Don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm not saying his first year at this wasn't incredible. It was. I'm not a hater. Just not a fan anymore either.





*Fully prepared to be blasted for this take.

Nick Pacific 12-29-2020 12:36 PM

I think that's a fair take

DiscFifty 12-29-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3673868)
I'm under the impression he thought this would be a cake walk, he'd come in, be an elite star, the face of a sport and rake in what little money there was to rake.

I think he achieved all that. (elite star, not elite player) After a year he realizes it's not worth his time to create disc golf content on youtube. We'll probably still see 30-60 second vids on TW and IG. Maybe his original contract required so many videos the first year.

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3673868)
Then he realized that, hey, DG is actually kind of tough. I can't compete with these elite guys that have been playing their whole lives.

Maybe his new contract includes a salary that allows him to focus more on his game. Year 1 was entertaining because it was fun to see his progress in the disc golf world on and off the course. Year 2 (and probably his longevity with the sport), looks to be all about his success or failure on the DGPT. The dude's a fierce competitor, I doubt he would settle for just being another 1000 rated player grinding the tour.

Ahildy13 12-29-2020 03:59 PM

I'll call it now and eat crow later if I end up being wrong:

Brodie will have given up on disc golf, just like he did ball golf, before the end of the 2022 season.

The only reason Discraft took a chance on him is because of his social media, and if he is giving up on that, they have no reason to keep him around. He's a hype machine that is trending downwards

DiscFifty 12-29-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahildy13 (Post 3673985)
Brodie will have given up on disc golf, just like he did ball golf, before the end of the 2022 season.

"Brodie will have given up on disc golf, just like he did ball golf" ... only if he can't compete at the highest level, where the money is. At his age, married, etc, money has to be the focal point. He did mention axe throwing payouts recently and he has a history of axe throwing videos.

kyflash 12-29-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3674014)
"Brodie will have given up on disc golf, just like he did ball golf" ... only if he can't compete at the highest level, where the money is. At his age, married, etc, money has to be the focal point. He did mention axe throwing payouts recently and he has a history of axe throwing videos.

Most of the payouts are small, even for winners.
I don't think it is about the money. In 12 years PMcB has averaged a little over $42,556 a year. Pretty poor for tops in any field.
I think he challenged himself, realized he was in over his head.
Step back, regroup, try again.

glassila 12-29-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscFifty (Post 3674014)
He did mention axe throwing payouts recently and he has a history of axe throwing videos.

Get them while you can. :wall:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CjtVr7p/axe700.jpg

...on second thought forget about it, they just sold out. :doh:

Mr.Big.Shot 12-29-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by glassila (Post 3674034)
Get them while you can. :wall:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CjtVr7p/axe700.jpg

...on second thought forget about it, they just sold out. :doh:

Bounce that off a stroller.:D

ejvogie 12-29-2020 09:29 PM

Wait, so he's with Westside now? I'm confused :confused:





;)

robdeforge 12-30-2020 09:35 AM

because I think people don't always read past the initial tweet:
https://i.imgur.com/MPNrXMt.png

Norvelljeff 12-30-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3674251)
because I think people don't always read past the initial tweet:
https://i.imgur.com/MPNrXMt.png

I imagine he is contractually obligated to not totally stop.

BillFleming 12-30-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by autocrosscrx (Post 3673834)
How many people have gone from sub-1000 to 1030+ in a year? I know that Clint Calvin did it this year, but it can't be very many people at all.

I think 1015 to 1020 would be a nice goal and impressive for year 2. I think he is probably too clunky to get to 1030 and he seems like someone that is hardwired to go for it and that isn't always conducive to optimizing your rating.

I don't know about Clint....but if I had Brodie's opportunity I'd bet I could really improve my rating quickly.

1. Have Paul McBeth tutor me for free
2. Have access to all of Discraft's discs
3. Have Paul McBeth help me pick out the best discs for my game.
4. Have a lot of free time to practice (heck, this alone would benefit my game)

ToddL 12-30-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BillFleming (Post 3674292)
4. Have a lot of free time to practice (heck, this alone would benefit my game)

5. Actually practice.

robdeforge 01-08-2021 08:55 AM

sorry to bump this off the second page but just in case anybody missed this drama: https://twitter.com/Paul_McBeth/stat...43088428208129

Jay Dub 01-08-2021 09:01 AM

What a whiner.

biscoe 01-08-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by robdeforge (Post 3678270)
sorry to bump this off the second page but just in case anybody missed this drama: https://twitter.com/Paul_McBeth/stat...43088428208129

sooooo sensitive...

riltim 01-08-2021 09:19 AM

I don't think anyone would be thrilled that their picture is posted at a disc golf course, that they've likely never played, implying that they're the type of person to litter and steal discs.

I would think that the senior members of South Jersey Disc Golf are old enough to know that this is poor taste.


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