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Eco81 08-01-2014 11:21 AM

It seems like a lot of people like the new gstar. Dome doesn't look to bag. I bet these will fly close to the true flight number and will break in to be a straight flier or a nice controlled turn over. I would like to see some pics of the new gstar v 11x kc pro. Or hear from someone that has thrown or throws 11x and tried the gstar

PhillyMatt 08-01-2014 12:11 PM

My disc should be here Monday

PhillyMatt 08-01-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by metallicafreak121 (Post 2532223)
Showing off another one, as well as showing some comparisons to the new g* Gazelles.

This old circle stamp Gazelle is more useful than it is pretty, I suppose. I use it for all my hyzer flip needs. Nice, beat in, buttery DX plastic.

Lol, you really would have liked my gazelle collection.

Questatement 08-01-2014 12:12 PM

I'll compare my gstar to DX and 11x this weekend.

Eco81 08-01-2014 12:14 PM

Yes please

Questatement 08-01-2014 03:10 PM

I figure one of these should fly like a new to slightly seasoned DX Gazelle. These Cheetahs are a relatively flat run and pearly as all get-out.

http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/a...psac3655b8.jpg

http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7256a9d8.jpg

Buiscutboy 08-01-2014 03:41 PM

That Cheetah is lovely. Almost makes me wish I threw Cheetahs :p

metallicafreak121 08-01-2014 04:35 PM

Finally got the chance to throw my gstar Gazelles today. They do fly like a lightly seasoned DX Gazelle. Put it out 300 feet easily. I did manage to turn one into the ground when I threw with a modest amount of anhyzer. Didn't try any flex bombs with em yet.

metallicafreak121 08-01-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Questatement (Post 2532648)
I figure one of these should fly like a new to slightly seasoned DX Gazelle. These Cheetahs are a relatively flat run and pearly as all get-out.

http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/a...psac3655b8.jpg

http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7256a9d8.jpg

I have your Gazelles twin. My brother threw it into a tree pretty hard on its maiden voyage.

Eco81 08-01-2014 04:40 PM

What does a seasoned gazelle fly like? Only ever thrown 11x

metallicafreak121 08-01-2014 04:49 PM

In my experience with a nicely worn DX Gazelle is that they fly really straight for a long time when thrown with a slight hyzer. Gazelles tend to fade forward more than other discs I think.

Eco81 08-01-2014 04:55 PM

Did anyone get one of each color?

Questatement 08-01-2014 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallicafreak121 (Post 2532787)
In my experience with a nicely worn DX Gazelle is that they fly really straight for a long time when thrown with a slight hyzer. Gazelles tend to fade forward more than other discs I think.

This ^^ plus, if you want more turn with added distance, just throw it with more power. Impossible to flip using clean form.

Eco81 08-02-2014 04:08 PM

bump for more feedback

Eco81 08-04-2014 11:44 AM

Anyone get out to throw the gstar gazelle this weekend?

smarkquart 08-04-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Eco81 (Post 2534847)
Anyone get out to throw the gstar gazelle this weekend?

Now that my Ace Race is done, I can concentrate on throwing my regular discs. I will stick with my original assessment that it is like a seasoned Gazelle unless I see something differently.

Questatement 08-05-2014 09:16 AM

Sorry to report that the gstar Gazelle (175) flies like a DX Leopard. Way more understable that I had hoped. However, the factory store champ Cheetah's fly like 11x Gazelles.

Unfortunately, I was looking for something in premium that flew like a DX Gazelle or, something in between those two. The search goes on.

smarkquart 08-05-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Questatement (Post 2535824)
Sorry to report that the gstar Gazelle (175) flies like a DX Leopard. Way more understable that I had hoped. However, the factory store champ Cheetah's fly like 11x Gazelles.

Unfortunately, I was looking for something in premium that flew like a DX Gazelle or, something in between those two. The search goes on.

Different styles of throwing I guess. My GStar Gazelle, also 175g, flies nothing like my Leopards, 175g.

Leopards, for me, have very noticeable turn and will go a measurable distance right. If not overtorqued, they will eventually fight back into a hard fade. However, if given either an anhyzer or hyzer, it will hold that angle all the way to the end of its flight. For me, the Leopard is very speed and torque sensitive. It will do exactly what I want, but I have to be conscious of how I throw it.

Non-Gstar Gazelles are best thrown flat because unless I unload a massive amount of OAT into it the Gazelle will not flip or turn. It will hold it all the way to the ground. Unless it is noticeably underpowered, it also has little to no fade. Finally, unlike the Leopard, if I give it an anhyzer, it will attempt to fight out of it. So, the two main differences between a Gazelle and a Leopard is that the Gazelle has almost no lateral movement and that it can handle power.

My GStar Gazelle, after a second day of throwing it on holes that require near max power actually flies similar enough to my regular Star Gazelles that it could be interchangeable with no real let down. The differences I see in flight between my two Gazelles are these:

1) It can flip up flat from the slightest of hyzers and or if already flat will have the mildest of turns. The turn is hardly measurable and in the end the GStar will land almost exactly where you would have expected a normal Gazelle to land.

2) Unlike most other GStars, I think it is actually shorter than the other plastics. Most of my other GStars seemingly have more glide than their counterparts, but the Gazelle seems to have a tick less. On occasion it came up shorter than expected by a few feet. While this was noticeable, some throws still went as far as expected, so results may vary enough where again you will not see a drop off in overall performance.

3) It seems a tick faster than my other Gazelles, which could make up for that tick less of glide.


For me, which again my throwing style obviously is different than yours, the result is a push. The Star Gazelle has better overall performance, but just barely. However, I like the GStar plastic more, especially after it has been washed down to get rid of the production slickness.

I do not see the comparison between the Gazelle and Leopard, but my Leopards have very defined shots in my bag as do my Gazelles. Because of their defined roles that also means that I have a slightly different body motion, wrist angles, and release points for those particular discs. They may or may not be the reason why I cannot see the comparison, but regardless, I have no problems putting in the GStar in place of my regular Stars.

Questatement 08-05-2014 09:53 AM

The only way I could get my gstar Gazelle to fly straight was with about a 45 degree angle, outer wing down. My DX Gazelles don't get to that point until they are beat to about 5-6/10. Maybe I got the odd one. Let's see what others report.

b-mart 08-08-2014 10:05 PM

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I can't add to the discussion about how these fly yet because I keep forgetting that I have them, but here's a side by side with a 9/10 11x. These new ones are definitely more domey than the 11x's. I have at least one of every Gazelle that's been produced, so I'd gladly post comparisons with any other Gazelle if anyone is curious. JL, 7x, CE, old DX, current DX, field dressed, etc.

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Turning Point 08-08-2014 10:06 PM

Received a JL Champion Retro Stamp Gazelle today. It's 175g Yellow and it sure flies great. Been wanting to get one of these for a while so that I could revisit Champ Gazelles and glad that I did. Took it out to the field today and got a chance to get a couple of really good throws in. Was throwing with a good amount of power behind the shot and they went nice and straight with a little fade at the end. Definitely one of those discs that just from the first few throws it will find a place in my bag/game. Can't wait to see these ran again at the Factory Store so that I can pick up some more!

Eco81 08-11-2014 02:48 PM

does anyone think they will be making a production run of g* star gazelles?

Questatement 08-11-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Turning Point (Post 2539809)
Can't wait to see these ran again at the Factory Store so that I can pick up some more!

Hopefully with flater tops and lots of pearl like the re-run of the Cheetahs!

Questatement 08-11-2014 03:26 PM

Anyone know how the circle stamped SE Gazelles fly?

E_Rock25 08-11-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Questatement (Post 2541668)
Anyone know how the circle stamped SE Gazelles fly?

Got a pic? If it is the ones I am thinking of they are in pro like plastic? Fly like a 9x if thats the one.

Questatement 08-11-2014 04:33 PM

http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/a...psca28b4b8.jpg

How would this compare to DX?

E_Rock25 08-11-2014 04:45 PM

IMO they are slightly less stable than a fresh max weight DX. The special edition plastic really dosn't hold up that well from my experience.

Turning Point 08-11-2014 06:42 PM

I've heard that the re-runs of the Cheetahs are nice. I think we will be seeing a restock of Gazelles, because I believe they ran the Cheetahs first at the factory store. So the Jolly Launcher Gazelles should not be too far behind. My Gazelle is actually quite flat but it would be nice if it had a little more tack to the plastic for grip like the JL Teebird3 have. If they run it in the current JL plastic I should be a happy camper, since the newer JL plastic seems to be of higher quality/ improved or maybe they just have the process down better now....either way I like.

TheBMeistor 08-24-2014 01:24 PM

I have had my G* Gaz for a few weeks now so I have a better opinion of it now. I got a fresh pro at the same time to compare it to. Both fly about the same for me unless thrown into the wind. Pro (same weight and PLH but much less dome) fights wind better. Had some fairly strong winds my Pro would hold a slight hyzer in where the G* would flip flat and make a very slight turn.

Don't think I'll be bagging the G*, enjoying my Pro a lot more. Just wish they were production run and cheaper.

banknwank 08-24-2014 01:57 PM

Recently added a gazelle to my bag and liking it for standstill fairway shots and shots just out of range for my rocs. Instead of over extending a roc, I can throw a little more relaxed shot around 270 that doesn't fade quite as hard as my teebird . Was looking for a slower , easier , tee bird flight, but I tend to get good anhyzer lines with it. It's just a little easier to control than my teebird . Tee bird is easier to reach 300 ft, but has to be a committed pull (for me anyway)to get there without falling into hyzer. All of innovas speed six /seven fairway stuff is pretty good IMO. Love my cheetahs, Leo's, gazelle and eagle.......just a lot of overlap and can't decide what to carry, so I have a bag full of fairways for now . But have been reaching for the gazelle more and more lately.:thmbup:

smarkquart 08-24-2014 05:34 PM

I tried/ am trying to convert over to Trilogy, moreso just to see if I can. I found that while everything else has a replacement, the Gazelle is the one disc I cannot take out of the bag.

Right now I am rocking:

Swan2, Mercy

Buzzz SS, Truth, and Verdict

Hatchet, Gazelle, TeeBird3, Predator, Trespass, Sorcerer, and XXX



The Buzzz SS could easily be replaced with the Claymore, the TeeBird3 with a Stag, and the Predator with a Boatman. The Gazelle is the only one I have not found a replacement for. Over the last two weeks I have been giving more and more shots I would use the Gazelle for to the Hatchet, but it is a completely different stability and style of throwing. If I just want to rear back and crush a straight line down a tight fairway, nothing can replace the Gazelle. The closest thing so far is the Truth, but being a mid that means that I really need to stretch out it in order to get what the Gazelle can get a little easier. This opens the door to OAT on my less than stellar throwing days.

Brodysseus 08-24-2014 06:47 PM

Maybe a Warship?

smarkquart 08-24-2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysseus (Post 2555358)
Maybe a Warship?

I had this conversation with someone or other on this topic earlier. I do not like the way the Warship or Tursus feels in my hand. If I am going to replace the Buzzz SS, it is going to be with the Claymore. Therefore, the closest mid that can duplicate the Gazelle is going to be the Truth, but to stretch the Truth out to the distance that I would stretch the Gazelle out to, I would require an incredibly clean throw. Considering how fantastic the Gazelle throws even when powered up, I would rather keep the Gazelle and not be all Trilogy than to go all one-brand and then roll the dice with the Truth (which in its own right is a great disc in all but the maxed powered up role).

TheBMeistor 08-24-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysseus (Post 2555358)
Maybe a Warship?

I would second that, but Warship isn't HSS enough to crush on like a Gazelle. But since you are having second thoughts I would say keep the Gazelle, there isn't much out there that can come close to doing what it does.

Closest thing I have thrown was Kastaplast Rask, and it fades a little more. Also more power hungry and doesn't like to be powered down. Little bit shorter too, but anything else that flies like a Gaz is going to be a mid anyways (ie 1.5cm rim or so).

TheBMeistor 08-24-2014 09:19 PM

Meant to say Kastaplast Kaxe, not Rask. Couldn't edit my post when I noticed it.

Brodysseus 08-24-2014 10:15 PM

Fair enough on the Warship. I say stick with the Gazelles then too, throw what you know. And Gazelles are great discs, I just can't justify bagging them alongside my Teebirds.

smarkquart 08-24-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysseus (Post 2555510)
Fair enough on the Warship. I say stick with the Gazelles then too, throw what you know. And Gazelles are great discs, I just can't justify bagging them alongside my Teebirds.

I see it this way between the TeeBird and Gazelle:

Almost all holes around me where I need a laser straight shot in the woods do not exceed 330 feet. That is about the range I have with the Gazelle before I start losing control from just flinging it. I can stretch them out further, but there is no need because of the TeeBird. Conversely, the TeeBird really does not have that straight of a flight for me unless I am trying to unleash a 330+ shot. So, in most scenarios the TeeBird is going to be used in open to semi-open shots that require more distance than I can get out of my Gazelle.

So, when I am looking at shots ranging from 290-330, I almost always go for the Gazelle first because of familiarity. If the shot is over 330 but under 375, I am more apt to reach for the TeeBird.

However, and mainly because I am done with my competitive tournament season until next April, I am finding that I am taking more shots away from the Gazelle and giving it to the Hatchet. The Gazelle is definitely a workhorse with enough stability to take whatever I give it, but the Hatchet has flashier results - which is what I want from a fun round.

Questatement 08-28-2014 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Questatement (Post 2535824)
Sorry to report that the gstar Gazelle (175) flies like a DX Leopard. Way more understable that I had hoped. However, the factory store champ Cheetah's fly like 11x Gazelles.

Unfortunately, I was looking for something in premium that flew like a DX Gazelle or, something in between those two. The search goes on.

I swear that this review is not mine, although it matches my review above. He must of got one from the same bin that I did.

http://proshop.innovadiscs.com/gstar-gazelle.html

Kodachrome 10-08-2014 11:06 AM

So let's talk about bag theory a little. How does the gazelle hold up for power throwing? I was thinking maybe going with a gazelle to replace my rocs and teebirds, then jumping to the pd for the overstable teebird lines and whatnot.. My kc rocs are fairly overstable. Anything currently in production for gazelles that you think could cover this range of stability?

Kodachrome 10-08-2014 11:16 AM

I guess what I'm asking is can a gazelle cover the roc and teebird role interms of stability and also almost distance in the bag of someone who throws a pd for longer champ teebird throws?? Seems like it makes more sense.


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