I would have to disagree with the C-PD2 stabilities a bit. I have a FR C-PD2 which is a monster, but a 2013 run C-PD2 with microbubbles in the rim and a pop top is a devourer of worlds. I am talking about FAF Firebird stable but with added speed stability. Nigh unthrowable, for any useful line. Cannot imagine a wind where the FR would not suffice.

This could if course be a matter of individual discs, but every tale I've heard of the new run pop tops is they're crazy overstable and fade hard right out of hand. Even for power throwers.

The 1st run D-LINE P2's are very soft and grippy. the 2nd run are more firm, but very grippy still. Those are really the ones we have noticed a big difference in. We tested out the 2nd Run in light weights (150 class) last week and they are very overstable, they had the same flight as the 175g counterparts.

Other than that, we haven't noted a difference in feel in plastics. The new plastic is soft and has a good amount of grip with a firm feel to it.

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Often different plastics have different overstabilty as you all may know. for example I notice the D-LINE P2 is not as overstable as the S-LINE P2. but, if thrown flat, the disc will fade, but not too hard. Thank you for recognizing our progress!

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The G-LINE P2 is a touch less overstable than the S-LINE. We only saw a slight difference in full power drives with it. otherwise it follows the S-LINE's flight path very closely.

Are you talking about the flat as a table First Run C-LINE PD2's? we did note that the darker (Red and Purple) color C-LINE PD2's are the most overstable of the new "2013 Jolly Launcher/Micro Bubble" run.

Either way, they are both seriously overstable just as the disc is supposed to be! :)

What's in the official Discmania rep's bag? :popcorn:

My bag consists of the following:

2x 175 D-LINE P2's for putting
2x 175 G-LINE P2 for driving and approaching.
4x 180 Glow MD3's for all midrange shots
1x 175 Lizotte Jolly Launcher FD (3rd Run Jolly Launcher)
2x 175 C-LINE FD2
2x 175 C-LINE DD2
1x 175 Echo S-LINE DD2
1x 171 C-LINE PD2 (Jolly Launcher)
2x 175 C-LINE PD2 (Jolly Launcher)

I have the C-LINE and S-LINE DD in there for testing at the moment as well.

Thanks for sharing what's in your bag.

Any chance there will be lighter first run G* FDs or lighter first run C-line FD2s added to the store inventory in the near future? I like fairways under 170g but I am so excited to try these new ones I will buy heavier if I have no other choice.

And any chance at lighter Simon FD's or McBeth P2's?

What, you dont bag any PDs?? For shame! :D Thats a big jump from FD2 to PD2 and DD2... but I have seen weirder combos work. Its about how you use what you have.

Can you share the different flight characteristics of all three FD runs?

If I could throw an FD as far as he can, I would consider that jump too! :thmbup:

Is there a difference in flight characteristics, feel, or shape between the regular run C MD3s and the European Open glow C MD3s? Thanks for all the great info; it makes such a huge difference to have a place to ask these questions and get good info.