Not sure what I'm missing but Craves fill that slot perfectly for me.

Same here but some people have different preferences and/or angle control. Actually, my crave is to the point where it really doesn't fade much, just rip hard and flat and it pretty much flies dead straight as far as my dead arm can throw it. My thrashed resistor is my OS fairway nowadays.

I think the Relay/Volt combo is very similar at my armspeed to what your Crave/Wrath combo does for you. You have some nice HSS Craves that you have found, but I have yet to find a HPL Relay that expresses that zero turn flight for me.

crave isnt interchangable with a teebird

I recently added my first MVP, or any overmold disc, to my bag. MVP Ion Electron (soft). Right amount of grip. Not too floppy in the hand. Can handle a good amount of power without turning over. Seems more durable than other baseline putters. Has a nice fade at the end. Good reliable disc. Found it in the bushes with a wiped stamp and no ink. It was destined for me (in pink the only color I throw).

****, my bad. It's an MVP ATOM.... not an Ion. Just wanted to clear that up. Tried to edit original post, but it seems to be too late. I'm an MVP noob....

Yesterday I worm-burned my drive, then hit a 220' tailwind shot over a baseball backstop fence for the deuce with my Electron Atom. It's probably my favorite disc right now.

*about to try and look for 3rd missing relay this year..*

Sounds like me with Waves and Teslas. I think I lost 5 Teslas and 4 Waves the first year(s) those two were out...


...but I don't blame the discs for that;)

Heh. I lose a fair number of Waves and Insanity(ies). But mostly because I throw them a ton.

Understable drivers + woods and undergrowth = lost discs