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Consult20 05-21-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 3309921)
There was a period of time late in the round where Val was not carrying her bag. She did indeed have a caddy. As such, the rules referred to in the statement apply.

Do you know the circumstances which resulted in Lesli Todd's 888?

araytx 05-21-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onemilemore (Post 3309921)
There was a period of time late in the round where Val was not carrying her bag. She did indeed have a caddy. As such, the rules referred to in the statement apply.

Although part 2 is not out yet (As of this posting), the announcer Cory mentions at about the 3:20 mark, that Val's mom was indeed caddying for her "at one point."



https://youtu.be/PuOXdh6tQwE

araytx 05-22-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jenb (Post 3309845)
Don't see a thread yet on Val's DQ today because her mom allegedly possessed alcohol or something. A friend posted pictures showing Val carrying her own bag all day today and asked why her Mother would be considered her caddy. Is it because her mom did not stay only in spectator areas? Does anyone know?

The competition manual states:

In PDGA Majors and National Tour events, the group consists of the players themselves, each player’s individual caddy, any active Tournament staff such as leaderboard attendants, Tournament Officials, etc. and any credentialed media ONLY. No other people may be with the playing group. All others (including players who have already finished their round) are considered spectators and must remain in designated spectator areas away from the playing group.


Round 2 is up. Go to hole 26A, approx 31:00. Judge for yourselves.



https://youtu.be/8IcuTJOef0w

alpha_dave 05-22-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by araytx (Post 3310538)
Round 2 is up. Go to hole 26A, approx 31:00. Judge for yourselves.



https://youtu.be/8IcuTJOef0w

ugh...dumb dumb dumb. Its pretty clear that everyone was informed of the rules against alcohol during the competition, but then to break that rule AND be caught on camera doing it? UGH.
Better that Val was DQ'ed when she was rather than some keyboard internet warrior getting a screenshot of her Mom toting a beer around once the videos got released.

Honestly, the best thing to happen now would be for Val (and her Mom) to release a full statement apologizing for their actions to the PDGA, tourney staff, fellow players, park department and Videographers involved. Only then, Maybe, will this "blow over".

juju 05-22-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_dave (Post 3310662)
Honestly, the best thing to happen now would be for Val (and her Mom) to release a full statement apologizing for their actions to the PDGA, tourney staff, fellow players, park department and Videographers involved. Only then, Maybe, will this "blow over".

Lol, they should release a statement explaining how dumb this rule is and saying they will continue to breaking it during competition.

alpha_dave 05-22-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by juju (Post 3310668)
Lol, they should release a statement explaining how dumb this rule is and saying they will continue to breaking it during competition.

Ha! Truly LOL. Yah, I suppose that would be one way to handle it....

Didn't I see in the other thread that it is illegal to have alcohol in that park? I guess they could tell the Judge how dumb that law is while paying their fine, but I don't think that would do them any good...but I ain't a lawyer.

money 21 05-22-2018 07:20 PM

i have met Val a couple time and she was very nice. I always cheer for her when she is playing. She does amazing work promoting the sport for women, but she screwed up this time and she need to own it.

jenb 05-22-2018 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by araytx (Post 3310538)
Round 2 is up. Go to hole 26A, approx 31:00. Judge for yourselves.



https://youtu.be/8IcuTJOef0w

Did you post that to show Todd's fatigue on that hole or to show someone caddying for Val? There's a shot at the end as Val holes out with someone carrying a bag, but IDK if that's Val's bag. Just curious.

alpha_dave 05-23-2018 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jenb (Post 3310799)
Did you post that to show Todd's fatigue on that hole or to show someone caddying for Val? There's a shot at the end as Val holes out with someone carrying a bag, but IDK if that's Val's bag. Just curious.

I'm pretty sure that's Val's blue Grip bag and the person carrying the bag has a cozy in their hand.

teemkey 05-23-2018 12:32 AM

31:51 lower right corner of frame.


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