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BrotherDave 12-04-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3526530)
The Matrix was the first of a new core, iirc.

Yeah I can't remember. Is the Pyro related to the Matrix any?


Segue, but I really need MVP to make an overstable, flat driver with a blunt wing for FH rollers. The Resistor just ain't cutting it.

brutalbrutus 12-04-2019 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3526536)
Yeah I can't remember. Is the Pyro related to the Matrix any?


Segue, but I really need MVP to make an overstable, flat driver with a blunt wing for FH rollers. The Resistor just ain't cutting it.

I haven't tried a Pyro yet.

Yea, I haven't had any luck FH rolling anything but a proxy from MVP. Well, except the Insanity is pretty good for holding a cut FH roller. That's mainly the reason why I still have a Wasp and Max in my bag.

vasco da neumi 12-05-2019 05:46 AM

usually i go with my fireball as a fh/oh-roller and am very happy with it. being a noodle-arm this shot is quiet important for me and the only way to reach up to 130 m (430 ft). as a leftie i use a normal fh-grip and try to get it on the ground with an 11-o'clock-angle (rh = 13-o'clock). getting it right it just goes straight for a long distance with a reliable hook to the right at the end.

two weeks ago while playing some safari-holes i just went with 3 discs and tried the pyro as a substitute for those rollers... wow! the pyro just keeps rolling straight and never hooks up at the end. it rollls out of steam and settles straight forward. i had a couple of rollers that distance-wise even went further than my fireball would have gone as the hook at the end is sometimes so hard that it entually turns back in my direction. the pyro is just following its given angle and therefore it is very versatile and can easily be manipulated to roll straight, left or right.

so the pyro is not a 1:1 substitution for the fireball. but i'm super stoked with the pyro to have a new roller-path in the bag:
long + hook = fireball!
long + straight = pyro!

Emoney 12-05-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherDave (Post 3526536)
Yeah I can't remember. Is the Pyro related to the Matrix any?


Segue, but I really need MVP to make an overstable, flat driver with a blunt wing for FH rollers. The Resistor just ain't cutting it.

Not even related a little. The pyro has a tweener mid/fairway lip. The one Pyro i got was just dumb OS with no glide. The Matrix is a smaller diameter and more buzzz-like in feel. Imo

Jacobpaul81 12-06-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfmandragon (Post 3525951)
All the plasma Craves I have thrown have had both more turn and more fade... a little more Eagle-ish but more mellow.
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Which I would call less stable.

My 156 Eclipse Craves are flip city. I have to put them on some serious hyzer lines.

jakebake91 12-06-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacobpaul81 (Post 3526958)
My 156 Eclipse Craves are flip city. I have to put them on some serious hyzer lines.

Is this the norm for them?

wolfmandragon 12-06-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3526963)
Is this the norm for them?

I have owned more Craves than any other driver. My 168g SE Eclipse Crave flys pretty close to my high 160s Protons and Neutrons, maybe just a bit more turn, but not much.

Diffently less turn than Plasma but also with more mellow fade.

My SE Eclipse Crave, and another I have seen in the wild, both are super straight.

jakebake91 12-06-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfmandragon (Post 3526974)
I have owned more Craves than any other driver. My 168g SE Eclipse Crave flys pretty close to my high 160s Protons and Neutrons, maybe just a bit more turn, but not much.

Diffently less turn than Plasma but also with more mellow fade.

My SE Eclipse Crave, and another I have seen in the wild, both are super straight.

This is what I thought was the norm for these. I bag a heavy plasma crave, and it's just a laser beam. I would have been interested in more and less stable versions. I'd actually even be interested in an electron crave. Something to beat into paper plate flippy.

wolfmandragon 12-06-2019 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jakebake91 (Post 3526981)
This is what I thought was the norm for these. I bag a heavy plasma crave, and it's just a laser beam. I would have been interested in more and less stable versions. I'd actually even be interested in an electron crave. Something to beat into paper plate flippy.

I also would like a Firm Electron Crave. Currently I am using a Ti Sting in that slot. It is beating in nice for that.

jakebake91 12-06-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfmandragon (Post 3526982)
I also would like a Firm Electron Crave. Currently I am using a Ti Sting in that slot. It is beating in nice for that.

We might be waiting forever on that one though.....maybe it'll.come out with all these new modern molds that are supposed to be replacing half my bag that went oop. They did start making an E matrix, so, maybe?

Or maybe it'll be released with the soft neutron ion lol

I used to bag a totally thrashed 150gram dx leopard for flipper duty. I couldn't throw it with enough hyzer to prevent rolling. Spike hyzer throwlers aren't supposed to exist!


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