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DFrah 11-20-2022 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elmexdela (Post 3852504)
im goin to marquette next week

i did a fat bike and dg mainly visit when i was out there a few years ago

this time i plan to only play that new church course and maybe a few others

anyone have any suggestions for hiking/snowshoe

i did sugar loaf and hogsback and i liked them

i saw the look out from mount marquette already

i liked deadman falls

Enjoy!!! There have been some other DG changes besides the addition of that church course, if you get time.
- Al Quaal got expanded from a 9er to a championship level full 18. Not sure how playable it would be in the snow though. My review on the site here reflects the old 9 and is on my list to update.
- Old Town got expanded from 18 to 27. Might be tough here in the snow too.
- As for that church course, it's nothing great but there was nothing really wrong with it either. Probably a good option for winter play. I'm going to give it a 2.0 rating when I get to that review.

glassila 11-20-2022 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3852519)
Got 9 holes on the Meadows Course (The Foz) cleaned up. The course was really left unfinished, after initial installation. Tee pads, baskets and hole markers are in, but some pads literally faced a wall of shule and trees. We really opened up a few holes and pads, making technical, but fair lines to play.

Bogey is a beast. I am sure I heard brush crying out loud, at the sight of him and a pair of loppers.

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

elmexdela 11-20-2022 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DFrah (Post 3852530)
Enjoy!!! There have been some other DG changes besides the addition of that church course, if you get time.
- Al Quaal got expanded from a 9er to a championship level full 18. Not sure how playable it would be in the snow though. My review on the site here reflects the old 9 and is on my list to update.
- Old Town got expanded from 18 to 27. Might be tough here in the snow too.
- As for that church course, it's nothing great but there was nothing really wrong with it either. Probably a good option for winter play. I'm going to give it a 2.0 rating when I get to that review.

thank you for the heads up

it is much appreciated

BogeyNoMore 11-20-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by glassila (Post 3852547)
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

Man, wouldn't a light saber be great for clearing brush?

Nick Pacific 11-20-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3852519)
Got 9 holes on the Meadows Course (The Foz) cleaned up. The course was really left unfinished, after initial installation. Tee pads, baskets and hole markers are in, but some pads literally faced a wall of shule and trees. We really opened up a few holes and pads, making technical, but fair lines to play.

Bogey is a beast. I am sure I heard brush crying out loud, at the sight of him and a pair of loppers.

Great work you and Bogey both. Much appreciated, I've always had an affinity for that course, great to see work being done out there. BTW, the 54 we shot last week on the original course held up for 1st. I'm thinking there is nothing stopping us for a repeat win on the Foz this week.

elmexdela 11-27-2022 08:07 PM

i added wakefield marenisco school which apparently looks like it used to be an object course but now has nice new discathers

also there is one called boulder alley https://udisc.com/courses/boulder-alley-S1e8

i didnt add boulder alley in republic since it seems incomplete but if someone else who has moar local knowledge or if someone checks it out feel free to add it on here

DFrah 11-27-2022 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elmexdela (Post 3853670)
i added wakefield marenisco school which apparently looks like it used to be an object course but now has nice new discathers

also there is one called boulder alley https://udisc.com/courses/boulder-alley-S1e8

i didnt add boulder alley in republic since it seems incomplete but if someone else who has moar local knowledge or if someone checks it out feel free to add it on here

Me when more courses pop up in the UP right after I finally finished bagging all of them:
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...1&d=1669606174

Also me when more courses pop up in the UP right after I finally finished bagging all of them:
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...1&d=1669606174

davetherocketguy 11-28-2022 01:49 PM

Things are going down at Cold Brook...From Larry LeBond on Facebook:

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I’ve been trying to think of what to say about what is happening with Cold Brook Park’s disc golf course. As many of you may know that in 2020, after 25 seasons of running leagues and tournaments at Cold Brook Park, I had mover my league and events out of Cold Brook Park because of issues I was having with the Park’s Director. I also stopped doing any kind of maintenance and course improvements there as well. Since then, attendance at Cold Brook Park has noticeably gone down (even in a time when the sport is exploding!) and they are now considering shrinking the course down to 18 holes and pulling all the holes on the west side of the park road. So, holes 19-22 will be gone. They believe that they will rent the pavilion by the boat ramp more with the disc golf course no longer near that pavilion (even though those holes are closed on the weekends). They are also considering a complete course redesign. The Park’s Director wants a “championship/destination” course there, but he does not seem to believe me that there isn’t the land there to do that without taking over more of the park, which they will not do. They are getting the opinions of a few other course designers about the design.
I recently went out there to meet with the Park Manager about course improvements. We never really discussed improvements. That did not seem to be the reason I was asked to meet out there. I was questioned as to why attendance was down, about other groups that use the course and about the disc golf scene around town, and how people would react to shrinking the course down to 18 holes. I expressed that people did not like how the league was chased out of there. That people don’t like paying to get in the park and never see any money put back into the course. That lack of regular maintenance (mowing, emptying trash cans, trimming, and dealing with fallen trees and limbs in a timely manner) is a huge problem. That the baskets, tees, signs, benches, … all need to be replaced. That erosion control is a big issue and retaining walls need to be replaced and new ones built or some other way to deal with erosion done. I expressed that the course design isn’t the issue and that people enjoy the current layout. I also expressed that a new design could improve the course, but I don’t believe that they will get their “championship” design or get anything that is that much better than what is currently there. My biggest concern in a redesign would be what would happen to the trees. Obviously, a lot of trees would have to be removed to do a new design and that remaining trees would die quicker if drives were now hitting them on their other side. I just don’t really see much of a gain in a new design, especially when you remove the few open and water holes on the course. It would also mean a long walk during the winter to get to the disc golf course.
I do not know what their intent is other than I believe they have decided to pull 19-22 permanently. I don’t know if they are going to do any improvements or not. So, I want to inform the disc golf community about what is going on and give you the chance to voice you opinion to the Park Board about the disc golf course at Cold Brook Park. I think they have the wrong attitude when they are shrinking a facility that has been extremely popular for years, that gets used everyday of the week, all year round because they want to make more money by renting a pavilion a handful more times a year.
If you would like to get involved or at least let the Park Board know your opinions of how things are at Cold Brook Park’s Disc Golf Course and what you would like to see there, now is the time. The Park Board meets this Thursday (Dec 1st) at 3pm at the Fair Grounds in the Expo Center in room “B”. The Fairgrounds are at: 2900 Lake St, Kalamazoo, MI 49048
There will be a chance for the public to comment at the meeting, but not ask questions. So, you can speak as to any issues you have with the course and the direction it has been going, but keep things respectful!
You can also write an email. I would send emails to the Park’s Secretary but address it to the Park Board. Her email is: [email protected]

ru4por 11-28-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3853808)
Things are going down at Cold Brook...From Larry LeBond on Facebook:

Hmmmm......I have played CB well over a dozen times, including a Worlds. it is an old school wooded, park style course. It is short and technical. It also has a aged charm that makes it a special track.

But, maybe it is time to let it go. It had some safety issues, IMO. They were mostly mitigated with infrastructure, but the OG design was dated and in need of a rethink. The erosion and tree damage is indeed a concern, IMO. Obviously, I do not advocate for course removal often, but it might be the best for this park and this golf community. Kzoo is not short on options, nor quality. I do think ANY changes would benefit from Larry's insight and input. I hope the best for CB, my old friend.

The Shide 11-28-2022 03:39 PM

I like Coldbrook. But I don't love it. I haven't played it in years. One of my issues with it is how out-of-the-way it is. And the deterioration of the course.
It's a shame that the "powers that be" don't appear to be on the same page with Larry.

superberry 11-29-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DFrah (Post 3850038)
Hahaha!

I may have said this before but I highly recommend Marquette as an under-the radar DG destination. There are now three 18-holers and a 27-holer all basically right in town that are fun. Plus three 9-holers in the area that have wide variety between them and aren't terrible plays either. I have two reviews to update and one to write from that collection of courses in my queue.

Plus...

New course in Republic MI - Boulder Alley. 9 holes now, two tees. Next summer will have concrete tees and 18 holes!

A private 20 hole beast on 20 acres, par 63, 6400', 160' of elevation from the top of the highest Ridge. INNOVA Discatcher 28 chain baskets and turf tees, centrally located to all the area courses.

Central Scrutinizer 11-29-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3853808)
Things are going down at Cold Brook...From Larry LeBond on Facebook:

The guy in charge of KZoo County Parks is the same guy who was in charge of St. Joseph County Parks a little over 20 years ago when I convinced him to expand a new and awful 9-holer at Meyer Broadway in Three Rivers to a real 18.

I see things haven't changed at all with him. Although I am forever grateful that he went with my suggestion to redo the original 9 at Meyer Broadway and get 9 more baskets (a park ranger who had never played in his life created the first "layout" if you want to call it that), he was difficult to work with and not eager to spend a penny on the course once it was there. Plus, he single-handedly put in several holes near the end of my 2001-2002 design that weren't mine at all and really sucked. He refused to have more than tiny fairways mowed on top of that. It was barely playable until a new parks superintendent took over and another faction who I'm not involved with redid it for the 2008 worlds.

Today Meyer Broadway has never been better, thank goodness. It's awesome.

So, yeah, that original St. Joe guy has been the Kzoo County guy for awhile and Cold Brook has done nothing but languish in the meantime. They chased off the K'Aces league there and still have the dilapidated old Mach 3 baskets, for starters.

(I was certainly no fan of CB when I first moved here in 1998, and saw two people bloodied by being hit in the head with drives in just a couple of years there, but it has its charms and I'd hate to see it wither away.)

Future_Primitive 11-29-2022 04:00 PM

Sad to hear as Coldbrook was my very first course played. Usually try and play there 1-2 times a year but just dont get over there enough as it is out of the way. Has a few really fun holes and lines to hit. Bummed out by the updates.

DFrah 11-29-2022 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by superberry (Post 3853982)
Plus...

New course in Republic MI - Boulder Alley. 9 holes now, two tees. Next summer will have concrete tees and 18 holes!

A private 20 hole beast on 20 acres, par 63, 6400', 160' of elevation from the top of the highest Ridge. INNOVA Discatcher 28 chain baskets and turf tees, centrally located to all the area courses.

Guess I'll be returning to the UP once again in 2023. :D

elmexdela 11-29-2022 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DFrah (Post 3854058)
Guess I'll be returning to the UP once again in 2023. :D

ahhhh me too

what a terrible thing

superberry 11-30-2022 08:13 AM

And last night we received approval to add another 18 hole course adjacent to the Powder Mill course in Marquette!!! We have almost 100 acres to work with and will be designing longer style Championship course to add to our mix. (Still including those fun amateur tees!)

The Shide 11-30-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by superberry (Post 3854086)
And last night we received approval to add another 18 hole course adjacent to the Powder Mill course in Marquette!!! We have almost 100 acres to work with and will be designing longer style Championship course to add to our mix. (Still including those fun amateur tees!)

Awesome news.
Hopefully no BMX trails will be near the new courses. :D

Nick Pacific 11-30-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3853832)
Hmmmm......I have played CB well over a dozen times, including a Worlds. it is an old school wooded, park style course. It is short and technical. It also has a aged charm that makes it a special track.

But, maybe it is time to let it go. It had some safety issues, IMO. They were mostly mitigated with infrastructure, but the OG design was dated and in need of a rethink. The erosion and tree damage is indeed a concern, IMO. Obviously, I do not advocate for course removal often, but it might be the best for this park and this golf community. Kzoo is not short on options, nor quality. I do think ANY changes would benefit from Larry's insight and input. I hope the best for CB, my old friend.

Wise words. Sometimes it's best not to fight with people who just aren't on the same page. Let them have their park and they can deal with whatever comes of it. Larry's energy and the local community of players are best diverted elsewhere where people want to work with them and they are appreciated.

superberry 11-30-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3854089)
Wise words. Sometimes it's best not to fight with people who just aren't on the same page. Let them have their park and they can deal with whatever comes of it. Larry's energy and the local community of players are best diverted elsewhere where people want to work with them and they are appreciated.

TOTALLY agree with this. Disc Golf can and should take center stage at exclusive use properties. We been in the same boat where we're fighting and pushing so hard to get a course where we want one, but the landowner just doesn't share that vision. Go work with those who want to work with you.

elmexdela 11-30-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by superberry (Post 3854086)
And last night we received approval to add another 18 hole course adjacent to the Powder Mill course in Marquette!!! We have almost 100 acres to work with and will be designing longer style Championship course to add to our mix. (Still including those fun amateur tees!)

i might have asked you before but why does it feel like marquette got leftover picks of land to use for dg

i aint local but i have been to marquette twice now

seems like yall are stepping your game up tho and gettin a nice cluster of courses

looks like ill have to be back for round 3

DFrah 11-30-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by superberry (Post 3854086)
And last night we received approval to add another 18 hole course adjacent to the Powder Mill course in Marquette!!! We have almost 100 acres to work with and will be designing longer style Championship course to add to our mix. (Still including those fun amateur tees!)

Wow! Like across the river?

skizzle34 11-30-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 3851377)
Today's work day at Nash Park went well, mostly because it was organized. The person who headed up the project set up three teams with clear objectives in mind:

One team dedicated to clearing brush and limbs, and making sure fairways are clear.
A 2nd digging holes for baskets.
A 3rd for assembling, installing, and levelling the baskets.

Everyone understood what they needed to do.

At this point, the tees are just flags in the ground, to see if anything needs to be tweaked going forward, but all 9 baskets got installed today. :)

Terrain is flat, but I liked what I saw in terms of having several well-wooded, shot shaping holes, with a few holes that are relatively open with just a few trees to avoid. I don't think it'll be the most beginner friendly course, but I don't think it'll be too intimidating, either.

---------

Also played another new niner this morning: Veterans Park, in Warren, MI. Typical park style niner, with nothing out of the ordinary. Not sure why it's not showing up on DGCR yet, because I added it this morning. I think Tim still has to bless new listings, to make sure they're legit, or not already listed.

Veteran Memorial Park - Warren, MI
https://app.udisc.com/applink/course/36206


My focus at Nash was to give people a challenge that is not typically found at park style courses. There are several pitch and putts in the metro detroit area so I didn't want another.

superberry 11-30-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DFrah (Post 3854102)
Wow! Like across the river?

Yep. West of Dead River (after hole 12 at PM we will have a hole or two throwing over the river for a transition). There is essentially 100 acres the landowner has which is almost untouched.

superberry 11-30-2022 03:32 PM

That's because they are leftover tracts, ha! We took what was given to us, tried to get creative, and used it to the fullest. It's what we have been proud of too...working with what we had, improving the land, using it without heavy clearing and modification, and opening up more areas for public recreation (and not kids starting fires in unused wooded areas).

Al Quaal is different though, and on a prime piece of property. The long term vision for Al Quaal involves three 18-hole courses. Right now most holes use the cross country trails for the "airway". We plan to use the surrounding woods much more, and much more of the miles of x-ski trails!

davetherocketguy 11-30-2022 05:57 PM

I guess they got a few emails about Cold Brook:

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Below is an email I received in response to my email with concerns. I think they realized they upset a few members of the community.

Cody:

Thank you for your email comments related to the disc golf course at Cold Brook County Park. Your email will be shared with the Park Commission. As a clarification, this is not on the Park Commission Agenda as an item of discussion or action. You are always welcome to attend Park Commission Meetings and make comments at the meeting. We welcome and appreciate park user input.

It is great to see the passion and interest in the long standing Cold Brook County Park Disc Golf Course. The discussion Park Staff has been having related to the disc golf course at Cold Brook County Park is how can we improve the disc golf course and the players experience. The Board of Commissioners approved funding in 2023 to replace all of the disc golf baskets so this is an opportunity to evaluate all aspects of the course for quality and opportunity. It is also time to fix tees, retaining walls, and other aspects of the course. The goal is to make improvements. Recognizing that we are not the experts on disc golf course needs I requested that the new Cold Brook Park Manager assist with this project and reach out to the disc golf community to come up with a plan that improves the course and user experience(your email will help with this). Unfortunately it sounds like the planning goals were not conveyed and this has caused misinformation about the future of the course. Our goal is to have one of the best courses in SW Michigan. This includes maintenance, operations, design, and overall quality. I have reassigned this project to the County Park Operations Manager and he will circle back to creating a planning process that meets our original intent of getting feedback from the users of the Cold Brook Disc Golf Course to improve all aspects of the course.

Please feel free to share any additional thoughts or concerns that you may have that will enable us to continue the rich history of disc golf at Cold Brook County Park.

David Rachowicz, Director Parks & Expo Center
2900 Lake Street | Kalamazoo, MI 49048`
Phone: 269.383.8778
Found on the "Kalamazoo Disc Golf" Facebook page. Thought a few folks here might find this of interest...

elmexdela 11-30-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by superberry (Post 3854146)
That's because they are leftover tracts, ha! We took what was given to us, tried to get creative, and used it to the fullest. It's what we have been proud of too...working with what we had, improving the land, using it without heavy clearing and modification, and opening up more areas for public recreation (and not kids starting fires in unused wooded areas).

Al Quaal is different though, and on a prime piece of property. The long term vision for Al Quaal involves three 18-hole courses. Right now most holes use the cross country trails for the "airway". We plan to use the surrounding woods much more, and much more of the miles of x-ski trails!

oh wow i didnt know al quaal had those aspirations

your scenery up there and land is amazing im glad to hear it expanding and improving

thats exciting

Nick Pacific 11-30-2022 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3854180)
I guess they got a few emails about Cold Brook:



Found on the "Kalamazoo Disc Golf" Facebook page. Thought a few folks here might find this of interest...

Kinda sounds like they've quantified the loss of revenue from the past 2 years since running everyone out and figured out just how much money the local disc golf community was bringing them and are in damage control at this point.

Central Scrutinizer 12-01-2022 05:54 AM

Before Spring Valley and VIRA and Meyer Broadway and Oshtemo and Robert Morris and Knollwood and Begg and TPC and Kimball Pines and Irving and the five or so school courses, Cold Brook was the only game in town for the area's mere quarter-million or so population. Every time I've been back to Cold Brook in the last ten years, it's a ghost town compared to the old days. There are so many better options closer to the population centers, most of which are for free or worth the fees. Cold Brook is going to have to step its game up significantly if they want that revenue back to what it was 20 years ago, and I don't see how that's going to happen when they're removing holes and there isn't room for more.

The county parks department is a couple of decades behind the ball. They have room for that championship caliber course they're talking about now at Prairie View Park (I'd LOVE that because I'm a couple of miles away), but it would compete with a free and awesome VIRA only a few miles away too, and the outstanding Meyer Broadway complex 15 minutes further south that's totally worth the cost, unlike Cold Brook. Their nose-in-the-air attitude toward the Disc Golf community has cost them and it's probably too late to ever recoup anything remotely close to the monopoly they had in 1998 with the fees they collected from the sport's diehards.

It's SO NICE having all these other options besides Cold Brook today. Really, the best it can do is be gussied back up and considered a museum course, kind of like how Honey Bear is in Peru, IN. Other than that, there's nothing special in comparison to the other closer, better and even cheaper to play options all over the place. I keep saying it but it's true; we live in a time of milk and honey. It's awesome. Sorry, Kalamazoo County Parks. You had your chance.

Nick Pacific 12-05-2022 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3850482)
Sounds like Nash is indeed going in by Sunday. They are starting to put in baskets and pour pads this weekend.
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Well that certainly didn't last long. Baskets will be pulled Wednesday. What a let down. Neighbors going NIMBY crazy is what I hear.

ru4por 12-05-2022 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pacific (Post 3855097)
Well that certainly didn't last long. Baskets will be pulled Wednesday. What a let down. Neighbors going NIMBY crazy is what I hear.

Sad. I actually spent about 10 minutes with one couple, the day we put the course in the ground. Sounded like there were several neighbors, whose backyards backed up to the park, were really protective. They had some concerns like....."we don't want a bunch of people coming using the park, all of a sudden"". By opening up the wooded areas, we will have kids partying all the time." We have been here for 17 years, now you want to change our park." "We like it nice and quiet here". "Nobody from the city or your group asked us about this".

It is a city owned park. Unfortunate. But the group spearheading the installation seem ok with it. They made some postive relationships with the city and hopefully will find a better fit for the course.

ru4por 12-05-2022 10:39 PM

I heard today that the MetroParks is redesigning the Willow MetroPark course. Removing 6 holes, to make it 18. Opening up most of the holes, by cutting down trees. I am not sure who is the driving force behind the decisions or helping with the redesign. I am angry about it. Willow is a tough, wooded track. A nice compliment to the area, especially in light of the massive loss of Ash trees in the last decade or so. I will post more info, as I find out.

ejvogie 12-06-2022 12:50 AM

Sounds like a second-to-worst case scenario :(

ru4por 12-06-2022 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ejvogie (Post 3855121)
Sounds like a second-to-worst case scenario :(

Yeah....I had heard rumbling that they were just going to pull it. That did not make much sense. I mean that course is literally in an area, that is unusable for any other recreational activity.

It does not sound like the redesign is taking any steps to mitigate the flooding problems, that plague the course most of the spring. I just don't get a redesign. I don't believe people don't play Willow, because there are too many holes or it is too wooded. If that is the case, we are not hurting for options in that area. SMH. I am just not sure what happened there. With the land available, I just don't really see the result being much better of a course.

ejvogie 12-06-2022 09:05 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the flooding is mostly on the grassy holes toward the front 1/3 of the course? I could see maybe trying to route something to avoid those areas. Not sure how one would connect the remaining holes though...

BogeyNoMore 12-06-2022 09:25 AM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the flooding is mostly on the grassy holes toward the front 1/3 of the course? I could see maybe trying to route something to avoid those areas. Not sure how one would connect the remaining holes though...

I don't play Willow often, but basically, the holes at the south end of the course hold more water, so the beginning and end of the round aren't too bad. It's the middle where it gets really wet.

I'd say the flooding is a problem on holes 8 - 14 or so. I think #15 (long hole out in the field) can get a bit swampy as well.

ru4por 12-06-2022 11:55 AM

Did a bit of asking around and came up with the proposed redesign of Willow. They are looking to move hole 1 to a new parking lot and picnic area. Solid idea. I don't think there is a pavillion there, but there are vault toilets, tables and a paved lot. It does not seem like flooding is mitigated with this redesign. It looks like the blue areas might be areas of flooding concern. I do appreciate the added amentiies that the new course will add, but I can assure you that Mrs. ru4por will not approve of toilets at the start, but not in the middle of the round. Mid course "pitstops" are very high on lher list, lol. Here is the map that I was forwarded.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cPj...ew?usp=sharing


Not sure that link will work. Let me know if it doesn't.

Innova63 12-06-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3855164)
Did a bit of asking around and came up with the proposed redesign of Willow. They are looking to move hole 1 to a new parking lot and picnic area. Solid idea. I don't think there is a pavillion there, but there are vault toilets, tables and a paved lot. It does not seem like flooding is mitigated with this redesign. It looks like the blue areas might be areas of flooding concern. I do appreciate the added amentiies that the new course will add, but I can assure you that Mrs. ru4por will not approve of toilets at the start, but not in the middle of the round. Mid course "pitstops" are very high on lher list, lol. Here is the map that I was forwarded.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cPj...ew?usp=sharing


Not sure that link will work. Let me know if it doesn't.

It doesn't...

ru4por 12-06-2022 12:03 PM

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=...=att&disp=safe

How about this?

Innova63 12-06-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ru4por (Post 3855168)

Nothing...

ru4por 12-06-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Innova63 (Post 3855170)
Nothing...

[email protected]#$%^&* Completely inept at this. Hey Bogey.

Thanks Innova63.


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