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BogeyNoMore 04-11-2020 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3573512)
Even in Detroit...one of the COVID hot spots Hospitals are laying people off:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...NvqGyBN_9T6Hgs

Just seems so backwards to me. This is not good. If the hospitals aren't making money it makes it harder for them to pay the people who are treating the COVID patients, buy PPE, etc...

OK...I did not know this. Just hearing it, it sounds effed up...but I haven't read the story. I just want to take a shower and go the hell to sleep.

brutalbrutus 04-11-2020 03:51 AM

I don't know what freep is but MSNBC has been talking about this for a couple weeks. Some hospitals that aren't in heavily affected areas have seen a massive drop in admissions and ER visits because either people aren't going out as much, so there isn't the usual amount of car crashes, fights, shootings, etc, or people are just flat out scared to go to the hospital. They aren't taking their kids to ERs for every little thing. Some people are choosing not to go to the ER because they're scared they're having a heart attack when its really just indigestion. Or they really did have a minor heart attack and didn't go. There was a doc on MSNBC the other night talking about when people do come to the ER, they're in worse shape because they didn't go right away. Also, elective surgeries are way down in a lot of areas, either because they've been canceled by the hospitals, or just like car accidents being less frequent, people aren't going out and getting their knees wrecked, or shoulders, or backs playing sports.

On top of that, hospitals are buying up PPE and ventilators trying to stock-up before a surge could hit them and between that and the lack of income from their normal patients, there isn't enough money to pay all the employees. That's why a lot of hospitals need the grant money from the feds.

Smigles 04-11-2020 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3573547)
On top of that, hospitals are buying up PPE and ventilators trying to stock-up before a surge could hit them and between that and the lack of income from their normal patients, there isn't enough money to pay all the employees. That's why a lot of hospitals need the grant money from the feds.

There is something fundamentaly wrong when profit is the deciding factor in how you run a hospital. Health care is public interest, just like education, infrastructure and the justice system. It's a duty of the state.

All around the world we are again saving companies with trillions of dineros that strangly are never available when you need them to improve stuff that is actually in the public interest.

Call me a leftist all you want, but redistribution of wealth is supposed to go from the rich to the poor. Last 50 years it's been the other way around, we redistribute from the tax payers (poor) to the stake holders (0.001%).

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Originally Posted by BogeyNoMore (Post 3573540)
No doubt. Seems our Federal and State gov'ts are flying by the seat of their pants on this. down the road, several of the decisions that have been made will seem stupid. Apparently, this isn't something we have a playbook for. And if we do, nobody bothered to distribute it, because now the coaches really just need to know what play to call. What's some of the most extreme calls have been an attempt to make relatively proactive decisions.

If only there were some sort of pandemic task force last year :D

brutalbrutus 04-11-2020 05:37 AM

Don't worry, you won't get called a leftist by me. According to a certain poster on these boards, I'm the worst "leftist" in history...


;)

Smigles 04-11-2020 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3573552)
Don't worry, you won't get called a leftist by me. According to a certain poster on these boards, I'm the worst "leftist" in history...


;)

Someone in the politics subforum called me that, too.

I think to get to their state of mind you need to draw everything black or white. Anyone not agreeing with them is the worst communist/socialist/insert buzzword insult.

I think it's a side effect of your two party system. There are no middle grounds, only extremes that are either dooming the entire planet or god's gift to mankind.

da Crippler 04-11-2020 06:51 AM

Stupid selfish kkkri$tian$ are the single biggest threat to our safety as a nation.:mad:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/us/ke...rnd/index.html

DavidSauls 04-11-2020 07:09 AM

Wow, this thread's like a carton of milk, left on the countertop.

It really soured overnight*.

* - My time.

davetherocketguy 04-11-2020 07:45 AM

They laid off 60 hospital workers in Detroit but the Army Corps just completed a temporary medical facility.

I wonder if the government will be smart enough to employ all those laid off in this temp facility. I'm not holding my breath.

Streets 04-11-2020 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by brutalbrutus (Post 3573552)
Don't worry, you won't get called a leftist by me. According to a certain poster on these boards, I'm the worst "leftist" in history...


;)

I'm pretty sure anything to the left of alt-right is considered a leftist by that douchebag.

robdeforge 04-11-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by davetherocketguy (Post 3573517)

what is amazing about it?


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