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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Today, 12:33 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
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Posted By Steve West
2019 DGPT Tour Championship, Hornets Nest Park ...

2019 DGPT Tour Championship, Hornets Nest Park

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Par for MPO came in right at 1000, which I would guess...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion Yesterday, 04:58 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 463
Posted By Steve West
OK, to the real point, with an example. Where...

OK, to the real point, with an example. Where exactly does the root of a tree stop being a playing surface and start being something you should not use for support? More to the point, why does...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion Yesterday, 03:15 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 463
Posted By Steve West
The Rules Committee does not make the decisions. ...

The Rules Committee does not make the decisions. The Board does.
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion Yesterday, 03:14 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 463
Posted By Steve West
Like Casper the Friendly Ghost?

Like Casper the Friendly Ghost?
Forum: Course Design Yesterday, 03:01 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,020
Posted By Steve West
Why in the world would anybody WANT to? A course...

Why in the world would anybody WANT to? A course should be designed to allow the best (that day) to defeat it. Not easily, and not by all of the good players, but it should be possible. If a few...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-20-2019, 05:49 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 5,034
Posted By Steve West
"Taking a look" is not good enough for me. ...

"Taking a look" is not good enough for me. Players will always do better or worse than expected. By mere coincidence some players will have a string of betters or (worses) that happen to line up...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-19-2019, 02:38 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 5,034
Posted By Steve West
You're presuming that a better indication of...

You're presuming that a better indication of their performance is the goal.
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-19-2019, 11:31 AM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
Well, since you asked, change par to 3 on #10,...

Well, since you asked, change par to 3 on #10, and to 4 on #13B.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 10-18-2019, 11:30 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,505
Posted By Steve West
You misread me. I was trying to be supportive. ...

You misread me. I was trying to be supportive. And yes, talking about it here is a good first step.

I just meant you don't need anything else to happen before you do whatever you are willing to...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 10-18-2019, 09:18 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 1,505
Posted By Steve West
Sounds good. Go ahead and do it. You don't need...

Sounds good. Go ahead and do it. You don't need permission, just bid on all the world championships for whatever year you think you can get ready.

(Gets lots of help from the tourism folks. Let...
Forum: Course Design 10-16-2019, 11:23 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,020
Posted By Steve West
So it's a par 3. (Which still doesn't make it a...

So it's a par 3. (Which still doesn't make it a good hole.)

Avoiding legit par 4s is not needed.

"Toughening up" a par 3 just to call it a par 4 will usually result in a bad hole.
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-16-2019, 03:54 PM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
Yes, it is no-penalty OB. So the TD can...

Yes, it is no-penalty OB. So the TD can designate drop zones, greater relief, mark near the disc, everything they can do with OB, just without the penalty throw.

Here is the actual rule.
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-16-2019, 10:03 AM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
I guess we need to know how much this hole is...

I guess we need to know how much this hole is dominating the results. By looking at how each player’s ranking would have changed if a hole had not been played, we can calculate how much impact each...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 10-16-2019, 12:02 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,795
Posted By Steve West
It's hole 3 now for most tournaments. ...

It's hole 3 now for most tournaments.

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Forum: Disc Golf Courses 10-15-2019, 11:47 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,795
Posted By Steve West
It's Hole and Course Performance Statistics, so...

It's Hole and Course Performance Statistics, so that's not a drift at all.

444 has a good correlation to ratings and to the scores of other holes, as well as good scoring spread.

What happens...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-15-2019, 11:36 PM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
That’s an interesting and rational take. I fully...

That’s an interesting and rational take. I fully agree we should not be second-class citizens.

To me, being accepted as equals depends on understanding the special considerations of golf...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 10-15-2019, 10:02 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,795
Posted By Steve West
Thanks, but that's not what this stat covers. ...

Thanks, but that's not what this stat covers. What you are talking about is narrow scoring spread.

Compactness is when Paul gets a 3/3/4/4, and I get a 6/6/7/7.

Lack of compactness is when...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 10-15-2019, 09:55 PM
Replies: 339
Views: 16,275
Posted By Steve West
So, one limit on how high up you can play > about...

So, one limit on how high up you can play > about eleventy limits that keep better players out of most divisions?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 10-15-2019, 03:27 PM
Replies: 339
Views: 16,275
Posted By Steve West
It's Open to 95 women, 21 of whom are outside...

It's Open to 95 women, 21 of whom are outside North America.
Forum: Course Design 10-15-2019, 10:50 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,020
Posted By Steve West
A part got cut out. Should say "often a par 4 is...

A part got cut out. Should say "often a par 4 is wrongly thought to be anything that is more than one drive long".
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-15-2019, 10:47 AM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
Sure, but that only affects quality of play. ...

Sure, but that only affects quality of play. Using parking lots, roads, and greens can cause courses to be pulled.
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-15-2019, 09:07 AM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
Whether it is OK or not at Winthrop is not the...

Whether it is OK or not at Winthrop is not the point. People will watch the videos and copy the design onto places where they shouldn't.
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 10:50 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,020
Posted By Steve West
Too short for Open. Often a par 4 is wrongly...

Too short for Open. Often a par 4 is wrongly thought to be one drive long. That's why you see a lot of 550 foot "par 4s". To me, if players can save par with a routine throw, it is probably...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-14-2019, 08:49 PM
Replies: 828
Views: 52,986
Posted By Steve West
On that note, I don't like to see golf greens in...

On that note, I don't like to see golf greens in bounds (or even in play). If we are to get more disc golf on golf courses, we need to show that we understand how special (expensive) greens are. ...
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 07:52 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,020
Posted By Steve West
You think a 550 foot hole is par 4? There's your...

You think a 550 foot hole is par 4? There's your problem.
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