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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Today, 01:13 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 987
Posted By Steve West
Did no one mention sticking lights on the disc? ...

Did no one mention sticking lights on the disc? Helps even during daylight on gloomy days.

Also, go out just after sunset and look at the discs in your bag. See those ones that look like they...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Today, 01:09 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
I'd like to hear what goes through your mind when...

I'd like to hear what goes through your mind when using your method. (I promise I will just listen, not comment.)

Here is some information about the hole. I'm sure somebody here has played it...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Today, 12:32 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
I agree with all this. I'm not sure where that...

I agree with all this. I'm not sure where that threshold is, but it would be in the direction of too many different scores, rather than in the direction of too many players getting the same score.
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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Today, 12:23 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
You mean, like changing par from golf's "expected...

You mean, like changing par from golf's "expected score with expert play", to "every hole must be birdieable, no matter how many birdies"? Yeah, we don't want to do that.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 12:48 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,148
Posted By Steve West
..and the award for Most Effective Performance by...

..and the award for Most Effective Performance by a Disc Golf Course in 2018 goes to.....

{sounds of envelope opening}

Winthrop Gold with baskets in the "A" position, during the United Stated...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 12-07-2018, 09:05 PM
Replies: 194
Views: 11,902
Posted By Steve West
Fine, I'll go. I had to find the zoom out...

Fine, I'll go. I had to find the zoom out button.

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Less intimidated now?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-07-2018, 06:35 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,148
Posted By Steve West
Skill is whatever makes some players consistently...

Skill is whatever makes some players consistently have a better chance of getting lower scores than other players.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-07-2018, 01:15 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
That is one method of setting par that works most...

That is one method of setting par that works most of the time. But, for this hole, it does not. Is anyone going to think they gained a throw on their competitors by getting that same 3 everyone...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-07-2018, 01:08 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 1,638
Posted By Steve West
All of those have a percentage "good" that is a...

All of those have a percentage "good" that is a function of distance. It's fair to say, for example, that the distance where half the shots are good is an analogous distance across all those...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-07-2018, 11:32 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,148
Posted By Steve West
I think of effective as sorting players by how...

I think of effective as sorting players by how well they were performing that day.

It may be easier to describe ways a course is not effective.

A course is not effective if it gives everyone...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-07-2018, 10:33 AM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
Yes, and you know which line I was very tempted...

Yes, and you know which line I was very tempted to quote in response to biscoe.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-07-2018, 10:28 AM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
That may be true, but it's irrelevant. There is...

That may be true, but it's irrelevant. There is no threshold if inappropriateness which exempts a hole from having a par.



Well, it was literally a par 3 at this event because the TD said so....
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 10:55 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,148
Posted By Steve West
In due time. First, I want to get a handle on...

In due time. First, I want to get a handle on effective.

One thing I'm noticing is that people seem to think not fair is the same as (or related to) not effective. To me, effective is measuring...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 10:48 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 1,638
Posted By Steve West
What if you control the speed of the disc so it...

What if you control the speed of the disc so it approaches that basket slow and from a high angle? If it goes in, it's a putt. If it misses, it stays by the basket. Wouldn't that count as a good...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 08:22 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
My point is that even if no one has ever scored...

My point is that even if no one has ever scored one lower than par, that's not a sufficient reason to raise par.

An example is Beaver State Fling Presented by KEEN - National Tour 2017/Milo McIver...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 05:12 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 1,638
Posted By Steve West
Tour golf greens average 6000 square feet. That...

Tour golf greens average 6000 square feet. That is about a 44 foot radius. From that distance, golfers make about one putt in 130 or so. Disc golfers make about that many throw-ins from about 220...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 03:43 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,148
Posted By Steve West
I'm looking at about 40 of the courses used at...

I'm looking at about 40 of the courses used at the top events in 2018. Not just open courses. I am asking people to rank these three courses so I can get an idea of whether the pure concept of...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 03:25 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
So if someone puts the tee where two good shots...

So if someone puts the tee where two good shots will get it done....? Even if a miss will result in a 4 rather than a 3?

I have no problem with anyone who does not like par 2s. Eliminate them if...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 12:58 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
There are a lot of methods that account for most...

There are a lot of methods that account for most situations. "All holes are par 3" does remarkably. But, the definition needs to apply to all situations.

What you've described is Close Range...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-06-2018, 12:52 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
I'd bet more new players would know that "par is...

I'd bet more new players would know that "par is a good score" than would know the commonly used unofficial method for calculating par in golf.

Re-educating only applies to the minority of players...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-05-2018, 11:59 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,148
Posted By Steve West
Most Effective Courses of 2018

I've developed a possible way to measure how effective courses are at sorting players by skill. Before I release the list, I want to see if it broadly matches common perceptions.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-05-2018, 08:55 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
The Open - EPT#4/Ale Discgolfcenter ...

The Open - EPT#4/Ale Discgolfcenter


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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-05-2018, 08:50 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
Prodigy Disc Pro Tour - Lahti 2018/Lahti/Prodigy...

Prodigy Disc Pro Tour - Lahti 2018/Lahti/Prodigy Disc Pro Tour

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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-05-2018, 08:49 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
European Disc Golf Championships 2018/Resort...

European Disc Golf Championships 2018/Resort Terme Sveti Martin/Layout 1


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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 12-05-2018, 08:47 PM
Replies: 3,387
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 386,112
Posted By Steve West
Skellefteå Open - EPT#3/Discgolf Terminalen / ...

Skellefteå Open - EPT#3/Discgolf Terminalen /

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