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Forum: Disc Golf Courses Today, 12:02 AM
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Posted By Steve West
It's hole 3 now for most tournaments. ...

It's hole 3 now for most tournaments.

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Forum: Disc Golf Courses Yesterday, 11:47 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,700
Posted By Steve West
It's Hole and Course Performance Statistics, so...

It's Hole and Course Performance Statistics, so that's not a drift at all.

444 has a good correlation to ratings and to the scores of other holes, as well as good scoring spread.

What happens...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues Yesterday, 11:36 PM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
That’s an interesting and rational take. I fully...

That’s an interesting and rational take. I fully agree we should not be second-class citizens.

To me, being accepted as equals depends on understanding the special considerations of golf...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses Yesterday, 10:02 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,700
Posted By Steve West
Thanks, but that's not what this stat covers. ...

Thanks, but that's not what this stat covers. What you are talking about is narrow scoring spread.

Compactness is when Paul gets a 3/3/4/4, and I get a 6/6/7/7.

Lack of compactness is when...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 09:55 PM
Replies: 113
Views: 5,133
Posted By Steve West
So, one limit on how high up you can play > about...

So, one limit on how high up you can play > about eleventy limits that keep better players out of most divisions?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 03:27 PM
Replies: 113
Views: 5,133
Posted By Steve West
It's Open to 95 women, 21 of whom are outside...

It's Open to 95 women, 21 of whom are outside North America.
Forum: Course Design Yesterday, 10:50 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 517
Posted By Steve West
A part got cut out. Should say "often a par 4 is...

A part got cut out. Should say "often a par 4 is wrongly thought to be anything that is more than one drive long".
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues Yesterday, 10:47 AM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
Sure, but that only affects quality of play. ...

Sure, but that only affects quality of play. Using parking lots, roads, and greens can cause courses to be pulled.
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues Yesterday, 09:07 AM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
Whether it is OK or not at Winthrop is not the...

Whether it is OK or not at Winthrop is not the point. People will watch the videos and copy the design onto places where they shouldn't.
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 10:50 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 517
Posted By Steve West
Too short for Open. Often a par 4 is wrongly...

Too short for Open. Often a par 4 is wrongly thought to be one drive long. That's why you see a lot of 550 foot "par 4s". To me, if players can save par with a routine throw, it is probably...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-14-2019, 08:49 PM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
On that note, I don't like to see golf greens in...

On that note, I don't like to see golf greens in bounds (or even in play). If we are to get more disc golf on golf courses, we need to show that we understand how special (expensive) greens are. ...
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 07:52 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 517
Posted By Steve West
You think a 550 foot hole is par 4? There's your...

You think a 550 foot hole is par 4? There's your problem.
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 06:47 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 517
Posted By Steve West
How often do you throw and end up no closer to...

How often do you throw and end up no closer to the target and in no better position? Almost never. Sure, a lot of times you don't end up as close as a good throw would have gotten you, but you...
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 06:39 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 458
Posted By Steve West
Maaaybe. Now I suppose I have to make something...

Maaaybe. Now I suppose I have to make something up to justify the rest of that post. So, here goes:

Most of the holes should be par 3 (or easier). That's what makes the game fun.

I like to...
Forum: Course Design 10-14-2019, 06:22 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 517
Posted By Steve West
Most poorly designed par 4s will produce better...

Most poorly designed par 4s will produce better scoring separation than most well-designed par 3s. Increasing the average score on a hole by making it longer usually has a strong effect on scoring...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 10-14-2019, 11:29 AM
Replies: 3,963
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 457,339
Posted By Steve West
The Ed Headrick Disc Golf Hall of Fame Classic...

The Ed Headrick Disc Golf Hall of Fame Classic presented by REC TEC Grills - National Tour Finale, WR Jackson Memorial Disc Golf Course...
Forum: Course Design 10-12-2019, 10:27 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 458
Posted By Steve West
The correct answer is 63 (1x2, 9x3, 6x4, 2x5). ...

The correct answer is 63 (1x2, 9x3, 6x4, 2x5). Other mixes near this set are almost as good.

However, the par needs to be set correctly for the skill level targeted.

Also, hitting the correct...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 10-12-2019, 02:25 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,700
Posted By Steve West
The leading candidates now are pithiness,...

The leading candidates now are pithiness, succintness, and compactness. I want a positive connotation.

"Bunching" is what I call the tendency of random scores to create ties. Which is bad.
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 10-11-2019, 01:10 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,700
Posted By Steve West
I need a name for a new statistic. It's...

I need a name for a new statistic. It's basically the inverse of standard deviation, to show how tightly packed the hole scores are.

I'm using "tightness" as a working name. (Maybe I've been...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-11-2019, 10:57 AM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
I don't think the engagement was because of the...

I don't think the engagement was because of the numbers. Especially not the numbers that require math. Figuring out and then adding the number of penalty throws is not lizard brain stuff.

I...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-10-2019, 02:33 PM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
I have played it, but I did not try to lay up. ...

I have played it, but I did not try to lay up. Even though I had no chance of throwing far enough to reach the island. I mean, c'mon, people were watching!

But my experience is irrelevant to...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-10-2019, 02:13 PM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
The caddybook says: "For the first three OB...

The caddybook says: "For the first three OB throws from anywhere on the hole, OB options limited to previous lie. Throws landing OB must throw again from the previous lie with a one-throw penalty....
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-10-2019, 12:46 PM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
Hitting the layup is almost as risky as trying...

Hitting the layup is almost as risky as trying for the fat part of the island. The laid up disc could go too far and into OB. If you want to play safe, going for the middle of the island is the...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-10-2019, 11:03 AM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
When 17 was first set up, the only rule which...

When 17 was first set up, the only rule which would allow for re-tee was OB. That's no longer the case. Don't you think Relief Area (re-tee throwing 2, instead of re-tee throwing 3) would be enough...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 10-10-2019, 09:25 AM
Replies: 802
Views: 49,329
Posted By Steve West
I know we don’t want to move all the way to...

I know we don’t want to move all the way to courses that are perfect tests of skill, but I want to know how to get there. We’re pretty far away. For example, the scoring spread width of just 49.52...
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