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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-18-2019, 08:51 PM
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Posted By DavidSauls
The drawback to direct streaming, compared to ...

The drawback to direct streaming, compared to cable/satellite, is that it reaches people who go looking for it. Cable offers the possibility of catching the attention of people who weren't looking...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-17-2019, 01:15 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 5,528
Posted By DavidSauls
I'll bet there are a hundred other sports/games...

I'll bet there are a hundred other sports/games out there, with avid players who think that ESPN should be covering them, too.

Many of which display more action, athleticism, and drama than disc...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-17-2019, 12:09 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 5,528
Posted By DavidSauls
Or is smarter than to waste resources in a futile...

Or is smarter than to waste resources in a futile attempt to make disc golf a major spectator sport, at all.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-16-2019, 05:25 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 5,271
Posted By DavidSauls
I was chuckling before I got to the end of the...

I was chuckling before I got to the end of the first post. Amusing, not worth engaging in, but amusing.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-16-2019, 05:04 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 5,528
Posted By DavidSauls
It did, and I agree on the ESPN-worship. ...

It did, and I agree on the ESPN-worship.

Though from a slightly different perspective---I don't believe disc golf will ever be a major spectator sport, for non-disc-golfers, on the scale that...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-16-2019, 03:55 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 5,528
Posted By DavidSauls
True. I meant that it had it's run in these...

True. I meant that it had it's run in these forums, of people crying that poker was on TV and disc golf wasn't.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-16-2019, 03:48 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 5,528
Posted By DavidSauls
My guess is, that of all the sports that certain...

My guess is, that of all the sports that certain disc golf boosters feel are less deserving than disc golf of major network attention, yet getting it, they view cornhole as the stupidest. If...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-16-2019, 06:26 AM
Replies: 141
Views: 5,271
Posted By DavidSauls
I niced that 10 times, though it only shows once.

I niced that 10 times, though it only shows once.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-15-2019, 10:03 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 1,968
Posted By DavidSauls
I, for one, rather like the notion that everyone...

I, for one, rather like the notion that everyone has peaked.

For the first time in my life, I'm a trendsetter.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-15-2019, 03:58 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 5,271
Posted By DavidSauls
And voluntary.

And voluntary.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-14-2019, 10:11 PM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
Among other things, the expected score for the...

Among other things, the expected score for the course isn't the sum of the expected scores of the holes.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-13-2019, 09:21 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 5,528
Posted By DavidSauls
Most of what's on TV, I'm surprised that anybody...

Most of what's on TV, I'm surprised that anybody watches. For much of it, given only two alternatives, I'd prefer to watch you fold that laundry.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-13-2019, 02:30 PM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
Is O.B. such that you expect the expert to go OB?...

Is O.B. such that you expect the expert to go OB?

If not, in the first case, are you expecting a birdie (without the OB)? Or does it change the error if a great save shot can be made?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-13-2019, 01:39 PM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
Perhaps it's more of a dismissive argument than...

Perhaps it's more of a dismissive argument than circular.

We don't expect experts to make errors, or at least not one per hole. The expected score already assumes errorless throws.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-12-2019, 03:52 PM
Replies: 262
Views: 15,028
Posted By DavidSauls
Or, the lower-rated players can. There are...

Or, the lower-rated players can. There are places for them, too, if they can't keep up.....and if they care, which they don't seem to.

For a year or two, the PDGA offered multiple skill levels in...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-12-2019, 03:46 PM
Replies: 262
Views: 15,028
Posted By DavidSauls
No doubt. I've played with bigger splits than...

No doubt. I've played with bigger splits than that, with some sub-800 guys joining in.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-12-2019, 02:51 PM
Replies: 262
Views: 15,028
Posted By DavidSauls
Whether or not you agree that that's their...

Whether or not you agree that that's their motive, doesn't change the fact that it may be.

People play disc golf, and play tournaments, for all sorts of reasons. Myself, I'm not smart enough to...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-12-2019, 08:20 AM
Replies: 141
Views: 5,271
Posted By DavidSauls
Every action in baseball is a competition.

Every action in baseball is a competition.
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 07-11-2019, 09:31 AM
Replies: 526
Views: 73,914
Posted By DavidSauls
Yes, but it may have closed.

Yes, but it may have closed.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-10-2019, 06:41 AM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
Not quite as simple if the players are in...

Not quite as simple if the players are in different groups, and have a different number of holes to play.

It can be done, of course. "Player A leads by 7 but has 5 holes to play; player B...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 08:35 PM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
It seems to me that you're trying to apply some...

It seems to me that you're trying to apply some mathematical certainty and precision to some imprecise terms. In particular, "errorless". I respect the effort. But it's more than I wish to make.
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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 05:20 PM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
It's why I proposed EES, about 3100 posts back. ...

It's why I proposed EES, about 3100 posts back. EES stands for "Expert Expected Score". if we used it, we could have BEES (Better than Expert Expected Score), WEES (Worse than Expert Expected...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 03:46 PM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
Could it be the expected score?

Could it be the expected score?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 07:11 AM
Replies: 3,902
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,350
Posted By DavidSauls
My own simplistic and somewhat vague answer would...

My own simplistic and somewhat vague answer would be, "Is it the expected score?"

If we expect players to get a score different than par, it's not doing it's job---at least, its job in producing...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-07-2019, 11:20 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 2,116
Posted By DavidSauls
Perhaps, but by missing etiquette I mean that I...

Perhaps, but by missing etiquette I mean that I was talking while people putted and walking ahead of them while still out and throwing out of order and so on. Really basic stuff, but I'd never heard...
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