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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Today, 01:46 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
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Posted By Steve West
I came across the requirements for being a...

I came across the requirements for being a Premier Pro (formerly Touring Pro). One of which is:

"Player Rating of 1000+ (Men) or 930+ (Women)"

Since 930 is the cutoff for women, that's what...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 03:34 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Save it for the Putt Talk thread, bub.

Save it for the Putt Talk thread, bub.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 02:02 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Well, as far as how it relates to par, it's a...

Well, as far as how it relates to par, it's a good thing we don't NEED to define a putt. The word "putt" has never been in the definition of par.

Maybe someone could start the Putt Talk thread.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 08:49 AM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Good! To reinforce your new understanding, I'll...

Good! To reinforce your new understanding, I'll let you explain what this shows:

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67829&stc=1&d=1553345175
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 03-21-2019, 10:27 PM
Replies: 278
Views: 15,348
Posted By Steve West
Am I the only one who wants to see 17's basket...

Am I the only one who wants to see 17's basket moved to that piece of land where Simon's drive landed?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-21-2019, 08:51 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
The phrase is “the score that an expert disc...

The phrase is “the score that an expert disc golfer would be expected to make on a given hole with errorless play”. I choose a 1000-rated player as the expert. Not the whole group of 1000+ rated...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-21-2019, 07:44 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 5,074
Posted By Steve West
Challenged how? Officially, par is set for a...

Challenged how? Officially, par is set for a tournament.

No one can ever go back and change what par was when Paul played.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-21-2019, 07:38 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
That's a good "approach" to setting par. ...

That's a good "approach" to setting par. Hahahaha!

Oh crap, I'm turning into Chuck.

Seriously, the distance varies by hole, but the farthest we can expect only 2 more throws is 165 feet on...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 03-21-2019, 01:38 PM
Replies: 278
Views: 15,348
Posted By Steve West
That chart did not include anything about par.

That chart did not include anything about par.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-21-2019, 01:36 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Yes, it is easy. Par should reflect how easy it...

Yes, it is easy. Par should reflect how easy it is. Using "two putts" as any part of setting par is worthless.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-21-2019, 12:08 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 5,074
Posted By Steve West
From JoeyH in the Par Talk thread: "I do think...

From JoeyH in the Par Talk thread: "I do think par for the course is setup for the 950 player."

So, for legit Open players (those at or above the 970 recommended minimum rating for Open) the par...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-21-2019, 11:51 AM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Who averaged 4.38? The consistent standard of...

Who averaged 4.38? The consistent standard of 1000-rated players, or the whole field? Not all the field are experts. And, par is not average, it is errorless play.

One round? It could have...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 06:08 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
OK. I have no problem with you or anyone setting...

OK. I have no problem with you or anyone setting par according the the PDGA guidelines.

The difficulties with par are mostly due to who the par is set for, and only a little due to how it is set.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 05:26 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 1,373
Posted By Steve West
So add it.

So add it.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 05:22 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 5,074
Posted By Steve West
We can be 90% confident that getting a 2 on all...

We can be 90% confident that getting a 2 on all three of these holes at the same time has a probability of less than 0.02%.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 04:51 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
And yet the guidelines are derived from the...

And yet the guidelines are derived from the definition.

How did that derivation make them 1000 X better?

I guess it doesn't matter. If everyone used the PDGA guidelines, and used Gold for...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 04:47 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Is that a problem with par or with the hole? Or...

Is that a problem with par or with the hole? Or neither?

What if everyone always gets a 3? What's par then? Does everyone get par, or everyone get birdie, or everyone get bogey? Only one of...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 04:38 PM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
I hear my mother asking: "If golf jumped off a...

I hear my mother asking: "If golf jumped off a cliff..."

The trouble with "not following the definition" as the guidance for how we should proceed is that it does not rule out anything, and does...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 11:24 AM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
I'll tell you what percentages my formula uses...

I'll tell you what percentages my formula uses for assigning a recommended par.

Par is the lowest value for which at least 75% of a sequence of experts throws are good enough to get par. That...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 11:13 AM
Replies: 3,695
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 409,362
Posted By Steve West
Whatever Joey says it is. Some holes are on the...

Whatever Joey says it is. Some holes are on the cusp.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 10:49 AM
Replies: 46
Views: 1,373
Posted By Steve West
That's within about 40 miles of the maximum...

That's within about 40 miles of the maximum distance any two points on Earth can be apart.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 10:47 AM
Replies: 46
Views: 1,373
Posted By Steve West
Get the latitudes and longitudes by clicking on...

Get the latitudes and longitudes by clicking on the course info page, and plug them in here:

https://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html

If it's not listed here, it doesn't count.
...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 03-20-2019, 09:43 AM
Replies: 278
Views: 15,348
Posted By Steve West
Right now, I don't. I stick to compering holes...

Right now, I don't. I stick to compering holes to each other during the same rounds.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-20-2019, 09:40 AM
Replies: 121
Views: 5,074
Posted By Steve West
Anyway..... to bring it all around to the...

Anyway.....

to bring it all around to the main point. Par based on 1000-rated players is low enough to serve us for a long time. There will not be a need to go to par based on 1020 or 1025 rated...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 03-19-2019, 11:19 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 5,074
Posted By Steve West
Probabilities are tricky. It just takes a few...

Probabilities are tricky. It just takes a few unlikely events to crash the probability of them all happening at the same time. Doing anything 18 times in a row is unlikely.

Let’s take the group:...
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