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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-28-2019, 12:40 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
Since the 2019 update missing the mando is now...

Since the 2019 update missing the mando is now defined relative to the lie and not the Tee. So yes, the third throw would be deemed to have missed.

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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-27-2019, 11:58 AM
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Posted By cheesethin
Yeah I find 804.02.B confusing, it is not clear,...

Yeah I find 804.02.B confusing, it is not clear, but it can be made to be non-contradictory if you think of it like this:

If your first throw crosses the line in the BAD direction (from the lie)...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-25-2019, 02:51 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
804.02 It is the bolded bit that allows...

804.02


It is the bolded bit that allows it. It is not a particularly well written part of the rule, but this is what it means. If you cross the Mando line and come to rest, from the bad side...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-24-2019, 02:08 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
I think you've misunderstood the point I was...

I think you've misunderstood the point I was making.




In your image, yes, the blue line can throw their second shot either side of the mando. What I was getting at with peabody was a slightly...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 06:12 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
EXACTLY! This is only the case because the...

EXACTLY! This is only the case because the direction you are NOT allowed to cross the Mando line from is relative to the previous lie and not the Tee.



YES ! I agree [emoji3]. And I think even...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 05:33 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
The 'blue line kick back' has crossed a mando...

The 'blue line kick back' has crossed a mando line. Not sure what you mean by the bolded bit.


In this scenario:
1st shot from tee to tree - all good
2nd shot from tree, crosses mando line.
...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 05:05 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
The blue line throw. Under the pre2019 update,...

The blue line throw. Under the pre2019 update, yes you could because the direction you crossed the mando line (a bad thing) was defined relative to the tee. And the 'sequence of throws' clause came...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 04:53 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
Thank you both. This really teases out the two...

Thank you both. This really teases out the two 'theoretical frameworks'(?). Makes it much clearer to think about. And the bolded part explains the issues.
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 04:35 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
Yes Not quite, 90 degree line from TEE...

Yes

Not quite, 90 degree line from TEE unless a line is actually marked then you use wherever the line is. The mando line is on the BAD side of the mando.
The default mando line (unmarked) is...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 04:17 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
Interestingly, if you change the tree bounce in...

Interestingly, if you change the tree bounce in your picture to where the first shot lands, then make a second shot backwards, the red line is OK, but the blue line has then missed the mando as it...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 12:50 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
I had an email convo with the rules committee a...

I had an email convo with the rules committee a while back and it was Steve or Conrad who made this point to me.


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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 12:33 PM
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Posted By cheesethin
One solution is to mark the Mando line at an...

One solution is to mark the Mando line at an appropriate angle. Say 45, so splitting the 90 corner in half.

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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 07:03 AM
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Posted By cheesethin
If I understand you correctly, then yes. If the...

If I understand you correctly, then yes. If the Mando line is at 90 to the tee (the default when no physical line marked), then on your example hole the Mando line extends near the basket and, yes,...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 06-21-2019, 05:52 AM
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Posted By cheesethin
The mando rules have directionality built in to...

The mando rules have directionality built in to them.



So it matters from which side the mando line is crossed.

Before the 2019 update the rules said.

So the directionality of a mando...
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