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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat Yesterday, 10:10 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
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Posted By Steve West
European Open 2019, The Beast, European Open...

European Open 2019, The Beast, European Open 2019; 18 holes; Par 64; 2,738 m

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Par might have been a...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-17-2019, 11:11 AM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
ET#7 - Estonian Open 2019 powered by Prodigy...

ET#7 - Estonian Open 2019 powered by Prodigy Disc, Kõrvemaa Prodigy Disc Golf Park, Modified Layout; 18 holes; Par 59; 2,246 m

Apparently, they used Advanced pars for Open players. Which makes...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-15-2019, 09:27 AM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Right. Not quite. "Errorless...

Right.



Not quite.

"Errorless play" for an Intermediate player will not usually be 1000-rated.

It is not an error for a 900-rated player to fail to throw a full 400 feet, like it could...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-14-2019, 10:30 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
I’m no longer surprised when I’m misunderstood. ...

I’m no longer surprised when I’m misunderstood. Befuddled, maybe. Anyway, thanks for asking for clarification. I’ll try.

1. Good catch, for the chart with White bars I should have said that...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-14-2019, 06:41 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
I didn't say 64 should be 900 rated. Nor did I...

I didn't say 64 should be 900 rated. Nor did I say 900 rated players average 64.

I said 64 was a good par for 900 rated players. There is a difference.

Ratings are based on average scores. ...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 07-14-2019, 03:54 PM
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Views: 192
Posted By Steve West
BC Open

I had this, so posting it here.

The phrase "coasting to victory" comes to mind.

Looks likes holes 14 and 15 in the final round were heart-breakers.
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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-14-2019, 03:17 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
BC Open 2019 Raptors Knoll Disc Golf Course Gold;...

BC Open 2019 Raptors Knoll Disc Golf Course Gold; 8102 Feet

Par is good for Intermediate players.

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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-14-2019, 03:13 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
OK, but as long as most of the 1000-rated players...

OK, but as long as most of the 1000-rated players can avoid the OB, you could have four-throw penalties and still not hide par. Unless you use average score to set par, but as everyone knows by...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-13-2019, 03:05 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
You can still par a hole with good par after an...

You can still par a hole with good par after an OB penalty. It takes an unusually high level of play, like one would normally use to get a birdie.

For OB with re-throw; in the context of par...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-13-2019, 02:53 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Not quite circular. Maybe recursive with...

Not quite circular. Maybe recursive with convergence at the second iteration.

As others point out, errors should be infrequent. (Instead of "errors" we could that say an accumulation of minor...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-13-2019, 12:24 AM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
I'll throw out some thoughts. ...

I'll throw out some thoughts.



“Correct” might be too strong of a term, but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of resistance to getting on board with a 1000-rated player being a useful and commonly...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-12-2019, 10:42 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Pretty nice job by DGPT - 2019 Great Lakes Open...

Pretty nice job by DGPT - 2019 Great Lakes Open presented by DISCRAFT. A couple of notes.

This shows a course can have accurate Gold pars and still be birdie-heavy.

FPO, while getting pars...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-12-2019, 08:11 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
... and the women.

... and the women.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-11-2019, 08:28 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
I’ve settled on a cutoff percentage for my...

I’ve settled on a cutoff percentage for my method. I looked at 2,538 different holes for which there was plenty of scoring data, and for which I had both length and tournament par. I found that a...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-10-2019, 11:45 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
So, bottom line, par 2s are OK if the TD sets par...

So, bottom line, par 2s are OK if the TD sets par to 2, right?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-10-2019, 07:16 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Well, at least you are now openly attacking the...

Well, at least you are now openly attacking the definition, and not just me.

Yes, par WAS three because the TD said so.

I'm asking you to pretend you were the TD and tell us how you would...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-10-2019, 04:46 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Typo. I meant the 195 foot hole 16.

Typo. I meant the 195 foot hole 16.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-10-2019, 04:34 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
No, that’s not the main concern. The main...

No, that’s not the main concern. The main concern is that par was being set according to a lot of different standards. If there had been one single standard which resulted in a lot of birdies then...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-10-2019, 01:05 AM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
First, thank you. Second, I would not mind...

First, thank you.

Second, I would not mind if there were no par 2s at any sanctioned tournament. Just as I wouldn't mind if there were no par 6s. While they both may have something to...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 07-09-2019, 02:15 PM
Replies: 180
Views: 12,065
Posted By Steve West
Power is still an advantage there. Stronger arms...

Power is still an advantage there. Stronger arms with throw a lower, straighter path. Weaker throwers will need to throw more of an arc, so the disc will wander off to the side before hitting the...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 08:10 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Thanks. Maybe what I'm looking for is a way to...

Thanks. Maybe what I'm looking for is a way to choose among the possible numbers we could select for par for those holes where the expected score isn't obvious. For those, if the definition doesn't...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 12:15 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
I don't understand. If we set par to be the...

I don't understand. If we set par to be the score that an expert disc golfer would be expected to make on a given hole with errorless play under ordinary weather conditions, how does that translate...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 12:10 PM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
Perhaps I did skip over that. I assumed what was...

Perhaps I did skip over that. I assumed what was meant was that par in golf is about equally difficult to achieve from course to course, that the winner of a tournament will usually have a score...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-08-2019, 10:56 AM
Replies: 3,900
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
They just set par lower.

They just set par lower.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-07-2019, 11:41 PM
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Poll: Par Talk
Views: 437,152
Posted By Steve West
That's kind of the opposite of my obsession with...

That's kind of the opposite of my obsession with par. I say just set the par to match the scores the hole generates. Most holes wouldn't need any change, a few would need a lower par, and even...
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