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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion Today, 12:50 AM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
Changed enough. The lie behind that marker disc...

Changed enough. The lie behind that marker disc is different, the consequences are different, and the wording of the stance rule is different. That's worth chewing over.
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-23-2018, 03:08 PM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
Actually, there’s no penalty for moving your mini...

Actually, there’s no penalty for moving your mini at any time. You just put it back. It merely needs to be in the right place when you release a throw. “A marker disc that has moved is replaced to...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 02-23-2018, 11:57 AM
Replies: 181
Views: 8,192
Posted By Steve West
Not mine. Someone get that person onto this...

Not mine. Someone get that person onto this thread.
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-23-2018, 11:54 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
Nothing states you can get no-penalty relief. It...

Nothing states you can get no-penalty relief. It only states "the player’s lie may be relocated to the nearest lie which is farther from the target and is on the line of play, at the nearest point...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-23-2018, 11:40 AM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
But then you've got a marking violation for not...

But then you've got a marking violation for not putting the mini back to where it should be before throwing.
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 02-23-2018, 01:00 AM
Replies: 181
Views: 8,192
Posted By Steve West
I root for the bulls on the PBR tour to be a good...

I root for the bulls on the PBR tour to be a good test of rider skills, and for the disc golf course to do a good job of measuring skill of players. This course, this day, under these conditions,...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 10:14 PM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
Well, the players thought it was not clear enough...

Well, the players thought it was not clear enough to call. The bias is - and should be - in favor of no-calls. "Players are expected to call a violation when one has clearly occurred." I don't see...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 02-22-2018, 10:03 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 573
Posted By Steve West
Skateboard park builders would be a good example...

Skateboard park builders would be a good example to emulate.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 02-22-2018, 10:02 PM
Replies: 2,214
Views: 231,664
Posted By Steve West
Here's my cheat sheet to know what to really...

Here's my cheat sheet to know what to really expect when watching the videos.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64190&stc=1&d=1519351307
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 08:35 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
Uh, no. Location in the rulebook was set to make...

Uh, no. Location in the rulebook was set to make it easier to understand, to find rules, and to avoid repeating rules in different places. Position imparts no supersedenositiness (is that the noun...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 06:04 PM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
Choose one: If all players in ALL the...

Choose one:

If all players in ALL the groups agree, maybe. But not if just the players in one group conspire to give their own group an advantage.

or

By entering a sanctioned tournament...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 03:11 PM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
Yeah, that's one of the biggest myths: that you...

Yeah, that's one of the biggest myths: that you only call rules violations when it gives an unfair advantage. There's no basis for it. I think that myth has only become so popular because it...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 03:06 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
No, you're making stuff up again. I thought I...

No, you're making stuff up again. I thought I told you to stop. ;)

The rule actually says "If any point in dispute is not covered by the rules, the decision is to be made in accordance with...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 02:30 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
No, the explicit rule is that the only kind of...

No, the explicit rule is that the only kind of free relief you get from casual water is back along the line of play. The rule exists to give THAT option. To give only one option, a rule needs to...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 02:21 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
Could be. But you don't get to violate rules...

Could be. But you don't get to violate rules that have problems. Even though the mantra these days seems to be: "It's my birthright to decide to play by what I think the rules ought to be."

For...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 10:49 AM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
The rule did not change whether stepping your...

The rule did not change whether stepping your marker is a violation. So, that was not relaxed.

The penalty went from a warning to a penalty throw, so that was not relaxed.

I wonder if the...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-22-2018, 10:41 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
Loud game show buzzer for a wrong answer. ...

Loud game show buzzer for a wrong answer.

There is no “right” to relief from a casual area (which includes causal water). So, the whole sequence is invalid.

(From a Relief Area, there is no...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-21-2018, 11:49 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 569
Posted By Steve West
There is no guarantee you will always be able to...

There is no guarantee you will always be able to find relief from casual water. Sometimes, you just have to play wet or take an optional re-throw.



No, because it is not along the line of...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 02-21-2018, 04:40 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 8,230
Posted By Steve West
True. I'm just going by what I hear phones can...

True. I'm just going by what I hear phones can do these days. My phone plugs into the wall, has a dial and a curly cord attaching the part I talk into.



So?
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-21-2018, 04:36 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,339
Posted By Steve West
No, these examples are not outside the rules. ...

No, these examples are not outside the rules.

A putt that does not go in the target is covered in the rules.


Where's the gap in that rule? How is what you did possibly outside the rules?...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 02-21-2018, 03:19 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 8,230
Posted By Steve West
You can get rules on your phone, but OK:

You can get rules on your phone, but OK:
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-21-2018, 03:12 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,339
Posted By Steve West
Yes, it does. But, it happens because some...

Yes, it does. But, it happens because some players are more willing to allow others to break the rules than to be "that guy" and make the call. It does NOT happen very often that anything like the...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 02-20-2018, 07:31 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 8,230
Posted By Steve West
Last round performance tracks: ...

Last round performance tracks:

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64161&stc=1&d=1519169456
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 02-20-2018, 10:59 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 5,345
Posted By Steve West
Let's take a look at last year: ...

Let's take a look at last year:

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64156&stc=1&d=1519138592

So, yeah, about half at that range.

Looking at the magnitude, not...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 02-19-2018, 09:11 PM
Replies: 329
Views: 19,479
Posted By Steve West
"Basic premise" is too strong. Everything that...

"Basic premise" is too strong. Everything that goes into rule making is just one factor which may serve one or more ideals, to be weighed against many other factors which may serve other ideals.
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