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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2019, 05:02 PM
Replies: 4,105
Views: 423,147
Posted By Steve West
Carnivore is a really difficult diet to follow. ...

Carnivore is a really difficult diet to follow. Almost all dishes have something in them that was never an animal.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2019, 01:48 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,428
Posted By Steve West
That may be the source of the problems he...

That may be the source of the problems he described.

Player suggestions are fine when they are vetted by an interested and knowledgeable owner - private or public. No so much when an uncaring or...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-15-2019, 11:35 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 4,102
Posted By Steve West
Perhaps the installment plan would not kick in...

Perhaps the installment plan would not kick in until, say, 7 events have been played. Keep it cheaper to pay up front.

Getting any kind of credit for the $10 payments would provide incentive for...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 01-15-2019, 12:49 PM
Replies: 2,352
Views: 347,915
Posted By Steve West
Not a fiasco; a shrewd move to put one over on...

Not a fiasco; a shrewd move to put one over on consumers. Coke wanted to move to using high fructose corn syrup instead of real sugar. (With all the corn subsidies, HFCS is practically free, while...
Forum: Disc Golf Courses 01-14-2019, 04:15 PM
Replies: 2,352
Views: 347,915
Posted By Steve West
That would make sense if "Paul McBeth Disc Golf...

That would make sense if "Paul McBeth Disc Golf Training Center" will be a franchise brand. They could be popping up all over the country soon.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-14-2019, 12:27 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,178
Posted By Steve West
Setting aside the "O" aspect, it would seem like...

Setting aside the "O" aspect, it would seem like lighted night disc golf would at least be something one of the video crews could try. Sponsored by a provider of disc- and target-lights. That's who...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-13-2019, 12:33 AM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Well . . . too bad. Because you'll not be...

Well . . . too bad.


Because you'll not be able to look away. Actually, it's pretty simple if you use my method of setting par.

Let's take a step back. It's probably OK, and certainly the...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-12-2019, 04:29 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
So, should we get started talking about...

So, should we get started talking about appropriate pars for doubles play?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-11-2019, 12:15 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,140
Posted By Steve West
Just a joke about what it would be like if...

Just a joke about what it would be like if "Kansasville" was analogous to "Chinatown" - except it would be the opposite. Everything in Kansasville would be familiar and boring to other midwesterners.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-10-2019, 09:56 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,140
Posted By Steve West
Sorry, but I have to ask: Do Wisconsinites from...

Sorry, but I have to ask: Do Wisconsinites from around the state go to Kansasville to get a taste of the exotic cuisine of the local enclave of immigrants?
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-08-2019, 01:29 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
I really liked strokes gained. It's the ultimate...

I really liked strokes gained. It's the ultimate stat for golf. I hope we can get there for disc golf, but it will be a while. Not only do we need to track millions of throws first, I think we...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-08-2019, 01:19 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Recursive, not circular. Recursive leads to a...

Recursive, not circular. Recursive leads to a solution, even though the formula depends on itself. Circular would allow for any value of par to be the result of inputting that same value of par.
...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-07-2019, 06:31 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Thanks for playing. I can't use EAI,...

Thanks for playing.

I can't use EAI, because looking only at scores doesn't really tell us whether the player got the score they intended. Besides, it sounds more like what CRP is getting at.
...
Forum: Tournaments & Leagues 01-07-2019, 03:20 PM
Replies: 1,451
Views: 331,057
Posted By Steve West
He average $43.64 in 2018, which put him solidly...

He average $43.64 in 2018, which put him solidly in the top 20% of all pros.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-07-2019, 01:32 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Right now, we’re talking about the pure...

Right now, we’re talking about the pure definition. Specifically, what par we would get by watching experts play and disregarding any scores that included an errant throw, then picking the expected...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-07-2019, 12:50 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Good logic, I'll agree with that.

Good logic, I'll agree with that.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-06-2019, 11:56 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Par is the expected score among errorlessly...

Par is the expected score among errorlessly obtained scores. By definition, (exceptional throw) this score is not expected.

If I were following players and saw a 200 foot throw-in, I would not...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-06-2019, 07:36 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
I would exclude #3 if I could. For example, if I...

I would exclude #3 if I could. For example, if I were setting par by actually watching experts play the hole and noting who did what. I would exclude #1 as well.

My method (or any score-based...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-05-2019, 02:18 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Yes, away from expected score, but toward...

Yes, away from expected score, but toward expected score with errorless play. Par isn't just the expected score. First, you throw out all the scores that were not a result of errorless play. The...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-05-2019, 02:00 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Then why not just call it whichever score...

Then why not just call it whichever score everyone knows they need to get?

That's a semi-serious question, what is stopping us from doing that?

With 20% growth every year, we can never say...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-04-2019, 08:34 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
I think that means you're agreeing that a smaller...

I think that means you're agreeing that a smaller percent of players need to get a 4 to call hole par 4 than the percent of players that need to get a 3 to call a hole a par 3.

What about the...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-04-2019, 11:17 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 252
Posted By Steve West
The real reason is so the ranger doesn't need to...

The real reason is so the ranger doesn't need to chase me down and remind me I should have put the stick back in the hole again.:doh:

I found this on rules.golf...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-03-2019, 11:58 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Are you saying that the quality of play per shot...

Are you saying that the quality of play per shot to get 4 on a par 4 should be higher than what it takes to get a 3 on a par 3?



Not quite. What I did do is apply my formula to the golf...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-03-2019, 11:43 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 252
Posted By Steve West
New 2019 GOLF Rules

Golf has new rules for 2019. I thought we might like to discuss how they have moved toward disc golf rules, and any ideas we might get from what they did.

Here are a few:

Golfers can now leave...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-03-2019, 09:54 PM
Replies: 3,465
Poll: Par Talk
Views: 394,419
Posted By Steve West
Let's look at the toughest possible median-score...

Let's look at the toughest possible median-score par 3, where barely 50% of the players get 3 or better. That means half the players have an unrecovered error, right?

To me, that says 79.37% of...
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