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Old 10-07-2012, 04:27 AM
JoakimBL JoakimBL is offline
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Originally Posted by Dan Ensor View Post
One more thing; it's been mentioned that 'the' problem is that players don't know the rules. And that is our fault.
We introduce our friends to the game, hand them a disc, and maybe teach them the fun stuff, like throwing a disc. Then they line up to an approach a couple feet away from the tree-line their disc is sitting in, and we figure it's too much of a bother to tell them the rules. Normalizing the action by telling ourselves that only douchebags teach people the rules that make their sport fun.
Jump-putts are the hack-a-Shaq of disc golf. Counting on the social norm to prevent onlookers from holding you to the rules you're playing by. Counting on disc golfers to gasp in disbelief that someone dared to mention that you've just cheated the entire field of competition. It depresses me immensely.
I agree to some extent on the first point quoted. But only to the extent, that when introducing people to disc golf, it's more important to show new players that it's a fun hobby. When they want to take the hobby further and call it a sport, players should also take responsibility for them selves to know and understand the rules.

I disagree with the second point. I don't think that the majority of jump putters who break the rules do it knowingly. In casual play, players may not even know the rules and in tournament play, that might still be the case, but for the most part I think players believe they are executing legal putts. That also explains why some get angry when you point out foot faults.

I still haven't read a proper argument for why the borderline putts are a big enough issue to warrant rule changes. It's not like people jump 5 feet in front of their lie and then takes the putt. That would be easy to call.
Why is it such a problem for some people that this is a judgement call, that sometimes is to close to call? We also have judgement calls on where a disc went out of bounds or if it cross inbounds before ending out OB. These calls can have a huge impact on the lie, and if in doubt, benefit goes to the player. How is jump putts any different?
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