Thread: Snap vs. Hit View Single Post
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02-05-2013, 10:40 AM
 BogeyNoMore * Ace Member * Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Walled Lake, MI Years Playing: 13.4 Courses Played: 242 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 8,309 Niced 453 Times in 283 Posts

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 Originally Posted by Dan Ensor I knew something didn't seem right; "off pitch torque"
no offense, but this term simply doesn't make sense.
It implies some torque being applied "off the pitch."
Since pitch refers to the angle the disc is being released at (i.e. nose up, flat, or nose down) I'm not sure I get what he's after. How can a torque be off the pitch?

Maybe he's referring to a torque that takes the disc off a flat plane (i.e "off pitch")? In order to change the pitch as you release, you must be apply a torque about the horizontal axis that runs through the center of the disc from left to right in order force the nose either up or down. But people usually just refer to this as throwing the disc "nose up" or "nose down." Further, this implies that it's actually changing as you throw, rather than being pulled through with a nose up or nose down pitch.

Remember: If you're pulling the disc through at an annie angle - that's not OAT.
OAT is the (usually unintentional) wrist roll along the "roll axis" at the end of the throw, which not only causes the disc to release at an annie angle, but provides momentum in that direction due to the torque being applied upon release.

Holding the disc at a hyzer or annie angle and pulling through at a consistent angle does not introduce an additional torque along the "roll" axis, so it doesn't impart momentum in an undesired direction - and allows aerodynamics to control the flight.

The same thing would apply to pitch: pull through at the desired angle of release, rather than adjusting to it just prior to release. That momentum carries into your throw, since the momentum vector is already pointing in that direction when you release.

Last edited by BogeyNoMore; 02-05-2013 at 10:45 AM.