Old 03-31-2013, 01:19 AM
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Op, you seem to be judgemental towards smokers and its likely thy can tell.
Keep showing up and keep your cool; folks will start to reconize you and soon youll be the one noobs complain about
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:05 PM
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I started with a friend who has (very annoyingly) always been a bit better than me, and we've improved at the same rate. When we joined the local league, it was very much a "your game is your problem" feel. With most of the players being tournament/competitive players, this makes a certain amount of sense.

One does well not asking someone to teach them, but taking the initiative to actively learn. You get good answers from other players if you ask "Why did you pick that line?" or "What disc did you throw?" Most players love to talk about their own game, and are loathe to talk about your game.

I'm coming on my 3rd year of playing in leagues and such and it seems only now that I'm generally recognized and tolerated. You never know who's going to come for a few weeks and never be seen again, or who's going to stick around and improve and get more involved. I remember my first league round I was thinking, "Great, now I'm one of the jerks with a pile of discs who comes out and clogs up the course every Wednesday." I actually hated my first year of leagues. It was very frustrating. There was (not that there isn't still) a lot I needed to learn and no way to learn but by keeping at it. A lot of the pro advice was wasted on me because I had such bad habits that I had to come to terms with on my own, I heard what they were saying, but I didn't understand really what it meant. Now I love going out with those guys and picking up things just by watching. Dudes who I might not think of much on a personal level for any number of reasons, and probably don't think much of me, but there's still a mutual respect there thanks to DG.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:18 PM
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I've been playing for 2.5 years, haven't really socialized very much outside a few buddies, and have not done a single organized event yet. But when I do, I'm going to start with the local Doubles. At my home course, Delaveaga DGC in Santa Cruz, CA, the weekly doubles pairs Pro level players with amateurs/casuals. So my buddy has ended up with ~1000 rated players and learned a bunch just watching them play. If you are respectful, and follow the Pros advice to help get the best score, like laying up on putts, and make up for the rare bad shot they will make, they will be very open to help you back. The other thing that helps is getting involved in the local course maintenance and politics. They have "fix up the course days" at Dela. Do enough heavy lifting at those and you will have local friends for sure.

Every DG scene will be different, and everyone you meet will be different. Personally, I only regretted playing with someone else once, and they just had a crazy motor mouth - wouldn't shut up.
Smoking Pot doesn't bother me, but in Santa Cruz, it is like taking sugar in your coffee to Smoke Pot. Some people do, some people don't, most people couldn't care less. I'm sure in Texas you can't be so open about it - even in the liberal minded anomaly that is Austin, Texas. Don't wear a Polo shirt to play IMO.

Anyway, I'm sure you will find a niche and some better players to run with, but don't abandon the folks you got into the game in the first place!
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:41 PM
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I generally keep to myself when playing a casual round, often deep in thought and that might come across as being rude or unfriendly to people who don't know me. I'll occasionally join up with some newbs and try to offer some pointers if it seems like they are eager to learn but I usually only offer encouragement. Sometimes I've had people refuse my advice, acting like it was rude of me to suggest they try a different disc or change their stance a little. So it goes.

If someone wants help and asks I'm more than happy to assist, but generally I'd rather just do my thing and keep to myself.

I guess what I'm saying is don't be afraid to talk to people but I hope you don't assume that all people are unapproachable if they don't talk to you first.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:38 PM
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When I first started playing I only had a few friends that really played and they never wanted to play as much as I did, so this meant I was on the course by myself. The good think about playing alone is that you are faster than the groups. So one of the first times I was on the course I caught up to a group of local pros and when they said I could play through I just asked if I could hang with them and try to pick up some things as I was a new player and could use all the help I could get. After a couple rounds with those guys I was seeing lines and throws I had never thought of or seen before. Maybe I just got lucky with some guys that didn't mind letting a new person into the group, but I'd say go out by your self and see how you can't catch up to...watch them as you are getting closer and closer and see if they look like they are any good. If they seem like they know what they are doing see if they don't mind you hanging with them the rest of the round.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:24 PM
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Madison, WI area disc golfers please don't shun me!

(I'm back from a two+ year hiatus in the Twin Cities)

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Old 04-03-2013, 01:51 PM
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I have been playing for a few years, but really got into it at the end of last summer with a friend. Played my first league round in December or January, and a few more since(now going every Monday starting this week). I have met some pretty cool people playing. Everyone has been very helpful. Played doubles last week and some guys took the time to show my friend and I how to putt better. Also showed me what I was doing wrong with my form. They were very friendly about it and never complained about my poor shots even though I was paired with someone much better than myself.

Monday for League night we went with someone that has played leagues much more than us and gave us the rundown of it. Had a blast. Sure there are a few people that drink while they play, but I have never seen someone completely hammered either. At the course I play at, most the people I see come in to smoke don't play disc. They just park and stay in their car, then leave when they are done.

Sucks that you had to have that experience. Maybe find another club/league to play in nearby?
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:29 PM
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In conclusion, the percentage of players I've run into seem to be about 25% guys who just want to drink and/or smoke pot, 30% guys who seem to be taking everything a little too seriously and are kind of douchebags, 20% casual players or newbs throwing Grooves on 150' holes, 24% good guys about on my level that seem like good guys I'd enjoy spending an afternoon with, 1% women.

Seems like maybe you are being a little judgemental man. Maybe the 55% that drink/smoke and take the game seriously are the one who can help you out if you ask. Though, honestly I am not sure what drinking/smoking or being a woman has to do with anything. Draw double is a great way to meet better players. I think if you ask around, there are always players willing to lend a hand. Good luck and hope you learn to love the game as much as I have.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:44 PM
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Yeah, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one perplexed by disc golf's secret society. I've been getting all the tips I can from this site but I joined my first tourny about a month ago(just a charity event) hoping to meet some players that I might be able to hit up for a casual game here and there. I mentioned to my group on the first round that it was my first tournament and I really should have just kept my mouth shut. Let's just say it wasn't so easy to stike up conversation after that and they got a little annoyed when I simply asked questions about etiquette. Don't get me wrong, there were some nice guys but I was pretty much ignored by others. I'm just as addicted as the rest of you and I want to get heavily involved and plan on joining my local league. Maybe I'll have a different experience with them. The point of my post is, i refuse to be one of those dbags and I'm all about making new friends. If anybody in the Greensboro NC area is feeling the same way, hit me up for a round and we can let those grumps keep their secret handshake. I'm always up for a round and we can get better together. You can always learn from others. Even if they're less experienced.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:49 PM
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I learned mostly from watching others throw. Then I joined the local D.G. club & started going to a lot of doubles tourny's. These are easier for the beginner because you have a partner to share the load. It allows you to relax a little bit. You'll see a lot of other peoples styles in a short period of time. You will talk strategy with your doubles partner & learn the little ins & outs of the game. I learned proper etiquette i.e. How to mark my lie. Where I should stand when I was waiting on others in my group.
I learned when it was my turn to throw. Pretty much everything that I wanted to know that I could not get playing casual rounds.
From time to time you'll get paired up with a really good player. This is when you want to watch carefully & ask a few questions to learn how the game is supposed to be played!
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