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Old 07-24-2014, 08:42 AM
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World Champions that use KC Aviars- Climo (12x,1x) Jenkins, Feldberg...
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Old 07-26-2014, 12:08 AM
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the aviar wins out for me. key differences:

glide, aviar has more. this is important for giving me more control and consistency on longer putts.

speed, aviar is slower. important for ranging, counteracts the glide by allowing you to miss without missing too badly.

depth, aviar feels deeper. i was confused about this because looking up the specs the wizard is deeper supposedly. important for nose angle in my hands. helps keep it level.

bigger nose. less space between palm and disc for ejection during the release, more finger spring.

aviar suits my style of putting better even though the wiz catches chains better. i putt assertively, not aggressively. the extra glide helps and fits my style like a glove. i feel like as the aviar beats in it will become an even better polecat. that is a day i am excited to see.

wiz has it covered on pure plastic, though. innova can't touch that. simply better on all fronts. wizard may be a clone but it is plenty different enough.
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and speaking of plastic, now that it's cold and fall, i find myself wanting to gravitate back to wizards. the kc plastic gets way too hard in the cold. i had two pole-rejections in one round on sunday. not hard putts at all, not too high, just about half height, dead-center mass perfect putts. i have had 4 in the period when it was getting cold, plus i had a couple slide through the chains on flat putts. now that it's warm they aren't doing it anymore.

anybody else have this experience with the kc aviar? it's disheartening. i don't know that i'll be able to use them this fall/winter. don't really feel like putting with yeti or jk pro.

i might go back to wizards during the cold months, who knows.
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and speaking of plastic, now that it's cold and fall, i find myself wanting to gravitate back to wizards. the kc plastic gets way too hard in the cold. i had two pole-rejections in one round on sunday. not hard putts at all, not too high, just about half height, dead-center mass perfect putts. i have had 4 in the period when it was getting cold, plus i had a couple slide through the chains on flat putts. now that it's warm they aren't doing it anymore.

anybody else have this experience with the kc aviar? it's disheartening. i don't know that i'll be able to use them this fall/winter. don't really feel like putting with yeti or jk pro.

i might go back to wizards during the cold months, who knows.
yeah kc aviars feel like hollow toys.

and they suck in winter. back when i threw them i threw jk aviar in winter. it firms up to pretty close to kcp aviar in winter while keeping its grip

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the aviar wins out for me. key differences:

glide, aviar has more. this is important for giving me more control and consistency on longer putts.

speed, aviar is slower. important for ranging, counteracts the glide by allowing you to miss without missing too badly.

depth, aviar feels deeper. i was confused about this because looking up the specs the wizard is deeper supposedly. important for nose angle in my hands. helps keep it level.

bigger nose. less space between palm and disc for ejection during the release, more finger spring.

aviar suits my style of putting better even though the wiz catches chains better. i putt assertively, not aggressively. the extra glide helps and fits my style like a glove. i feel like as the aviar beats in it will become an even better polecat. that is a day i am excited to see.

wiz has it covered on pure plastic, though. innova can't touch that. simply better on all fronts. wizard may be a clone but it is plenty different enough.

and this is a great post
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