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Old 10-16-2019, 05:41 PM
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The news source, and I, gave the TLDR version.
Are we really a society that only cares about headlines and hearsay? But that's going off on a tangent, and that's not needed here.
I understand your need to get the information from the source. It could potentially affect you directly. But don't expect the rest of us...or society...to feel the same way.
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:22 PM
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I understand your need to get the information from the source. It could potentially affect you directly. But don't expect the rest of us...or society...to feel the same way.
I would be more comfortable if you spoke for yourself......not us, or society.

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Old 10-16-2019, 06:24 PM
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To borrow Laura's word... Indeed.
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Old 10-16-2019, 07:10 PM
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I understand your need to get the information from the source. It could potentially affect you directly. But don't expect the rest of us...or society...to feel the same way.
Many, most even, couldn't care less about me or my title, or what my playing would do to others, and what I did or didn't do, and which guidelines apply to me. From what I figured over these almost 3 months, there's been about 400-500 people who have vocalised their opposition/criticism/demeaning/destroying/debasing my participating in gender-protected divisions and concurrent achievements.

With close to 50k active PDGA members, out of about 128k all-time PDGA members, that 400-500 number is remarkably small (whilst respecting each of the 400-500 people's vocalisations).
Even if for any and all of the transgender community (inside and outside of disc golf), these 400-500 could be highly troubling.

Sidenote: at the PDGA Board of Directors Fall Summit that just finished, the word "suicide" was mentioned. It was NOT connected to the transgender topic, it was mentioned in a competely different topic, but it was explicitly linked to "bullying".
What would these 400-500 people think/do if they were told that as a direct result of their actions, someone would contemplate or commit suicide?


However, on this forum, as on Facebook and Reddit (did I miss any other platforms?), a noticeable amount of people feel entitled to be police, prosecution, judge, and jury in "the case against Laura". With regards to those people, I would then, indeed, expect and hope they would look at the evidence and guidelines critically.

Lest they'd simply reduce themselves to trolls and ranters.

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Old 10-16-2019, 07:14 PM
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To borrow Laura's word... Indeed.
This was supposed to be a quip. right?
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:21 PM
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Halcón thinks a country with a majority of progressive thinking people would side with him because that is the community he associates with. He assumes all those hateful, spiteful, angry, scared, and cowed people make up the norm. They do not. This is not a Christian country. Thank god it is not. If it were...Canada, here I come.

Though, I am not signing up either because I am too lazy... but I will never be too lazy to love all my brothers, sisters, and those that are in between or whatever you are...there is something more precious about us all that has nothing to do with your particular sexy bits.

Bravo to those that find themselves and do what is right for them...and if you want to disc golf with the golf discs with me, I have only one question. Where and when?

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Old 10-16-2019, 10:05 PM
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Hey, as long as the one is being brave, to heck with what everyone else thinks, or how everyone else is affected.
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:35 PM
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Hey, as long as the one is being brave, to heck with what everyone else thinks, or how everyone else is affected.
Seriously.....stop trying to speak for anyone but yourself. It doesn't legitimatize your take.

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Old 10-16-2019, 10:45 PM
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The problem with Halcón is that he was easily radicalized by YouTube videos and can't comprehend why others haven't been.

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Old 10-16-2019, 10:54 PM
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The problem with Halcón is that he was easily radicalized by YouTube videos and can't comprehend why others haven't been.
What does "radicalized" mean to you.
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