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Old 12-22-2018, 08:40 AM
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No, they were more neutral like a Comet. I was gonna mention the Qms but it might be too Buzzz-like or understable also. A Pine or Compass might be worth a look though. I can't remember if the Shockwave had a bead but it might be a contender. The Pain actually fits the bill well but I don't know how long they'll keep making them. I just got a Runway but it's impressing me so far. It's flat though, more like a beefed up Buzzz. It's taller feeling than a Buzzz though so it doesn't really feel like a faster midrange. It's a bit more overstable than a typical Rancho though, maybe slightly more OS than a KC Pro.
If the OP wants to try these, the Quantum is the most stable of this mold. I'm too lazy to look up the speed on a QMS but it seems slower than my buzzes and eMac. I use it when I can't quite get there with a putter. Maybe it's a bit of a tweener disc? At least for me.
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Old 12-22-2018, 08:54 AM
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Legacy gauge is a retooled coyote or something similar. The coyote was a laser straight disc. Kinda odd it never caught on.
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Old 12-22-2018, 09:10 AM
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No, they were more neutral like a Comet. I was gonna mention the Qms but it might be too Buzzz-like or understable also. A Pine or Compass might be worth a look though. I can't remember if the Shockwave had a bead but it might be a contender. The Pain actually fits the bill well but I don't know how long they'll keep making them. I just got a Runway but it's impressing me so far. It's flat though, more like a beefed up Buzzz. It's taller feeling than a Buzzz though so it doesn't really feel like a faster midrange. It's a bit more overstable than a typical Rancho though, maybe slightly more OS than a KC Pro.
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Old 12-22-2018, 09:12 AM
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Suspect, but i guess it's a bit more stable than a roc
Lucid is straight with light fade. Other plastics are more overstable compared to that.
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:16 AM
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No mention of Cro yet? I feel like this is exactly what a Cro is.

Between different plastics you can cover all the Roc lines. Doesn't glide out like a Roc but the smaller diameter makes it slow down less quickly than a Roc. Some people take that as it is faster than a Roc with less glide but I don't see it that way.

Shark is my second choice only because it is a little sharp at the bottom of the wing, they hurt my hand to throw them when it gets colder for some reason. Most stable Shark3's were the Tom Selenski metal flakes if you can find any.

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Old 12-22-2018, 11:21 AM
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No love for the Prodigy A4? It's beaded but I'd say that you'll barely even notice it since it's sort of tucked in if that makes any sense. It's a true speed 4 disc with just the right amount of stability. I'd five it flight ratings of 4,4,0,2. An unknown gem!!
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:24 AM
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CRO had a glide of 0.5. Great feeling disc but you’d almost do better throwing a fast putter. Speaking of which, the pure in opto plastic is like a baby buzzz.

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Old 12-22-2018, 12:22 PM
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Gateway mystic, its beadless and domey. However it is neutral/US similar to a comet or mako. You're going to be hard pressed to find a stable/OS beadless slower mid. Seems like when the bead is removed in order to have a more stable flight the disc is just inherently faster by design.
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Old 12-23-2018, 02:35 PM
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The Cro is really very slow Roc like in flight.

The Alias is very HSS without being very LSS. It's got a very small bead but doesn't feel it.

I would recommend the Envy though as a slower Roc. Flight is almost identical but in Putter form. It has a micro bead, but again, it doesn't feel like it. It's very low profile.
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Fast putters.

"Sneaky long" has been the trend in midranges for years now.

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