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Old 05-29-2020, 07:50 PM
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I was thinking Hades is the lord of the underworld and this disc is understable.
With Zeus being the overlord, he should make a Poseidon and have it be able to float.
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Old 05-29-2020, 07:54 PM
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I've thrown 2 of mine a fair bit (162 and 174) and they bomb. Had a 490' drive with a slight tailwind yesterday with the 174. The comparisons to a Tern are pretty spot on, but the Hades is a bit deeper rimmed so I can actually rip on one unlike a Tern.
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Old 05-29-2020, 09:05 PM
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With Zeus being the overlord, he should make a Poseidon and have it be able to float.
We would have to wait three years for that.

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Old 05-29-2020, 09:59 PM
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I am getting it out over 400 with ease. Slight hyzer, it'll drifft for a long time before fighting out of it
It needs room to work at max throw but has the ability to keep from turning and burning. I'm curious to see how it seasons.
The pandemic rust has def. Hurt my distance. I was throwing a raider 440 at max, best throws, typically 390-410. Once I get back into regularly playing, hoping to really push the Hades out far.
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Old 05-30-2020, 06:54 AM
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Glide is the impressive part. I suspect they will beat to unusably flippy pretty quickly, but they sure start out nice.

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Old 05-30-2020, 04:53 PM
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Glide is the impressive part. I suspect they will beat to unusably flippy pretty quickly, but they sure start out nice.
Interesting. The ESP plastic these days is quite durable.
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Old 05-30-2020, 06:20 PM
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I've heard these compared to a katana. I bag a katana and like it, but if I could have a slightly smaller rim katana I'd consider it. I have tried the tern in this slot... but in star plastic, they are just too flippy for me while katanas remain stable.
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Old 05-30-2020, 06:23 PM
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I'd agree, and should have qualified my statement. I'm throwing the brand new, max weights about 450, maybe a little farther. Drivers have always seemed to season more quickly regardless of plastic, whether due to usage, speed, or shape. My form isn't ideal, and I expect the Hades will become less HSS relatively quickly. I have the same issue with some Cranks and Punishers. I'm also keen to try rolling it, so that won't help it's relative stability, I don't imagine. I'd be happy to be wrong. Good disc.

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Old 05-31-2020, 07:36 PM
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So I got 3 of these proto Hades. 1 at 162g and 2 in the 170s. I've been trying to put my finger on how they fly, and I think I'm pretty confident in saying they fly like a flat Shryke, or a Star Tern without as much of a hard fade at the end. Flatter shrykes have less stability, while domier shrykes are more stable.

One of my 170 Hades is a little bit more stable than the other, and I did check both. The PLH on the more stable one is slightly higher.

Compared to my Thrashers: the 162g Hades is a little more stable than my 164g BigZ Thrasher (which is wonderfully flippy). The full weight Hades aren't anywhere near as stable as my ESP Thrasher (which might be a retooling or some kind of freak Thrasher, the PLH on it is very high).

Discraft's ratings of 13/6/-3/2 seem appropriate, where a Domey Shryke would be 13/6/-2/2, and a Tern would be 12/6/-3/2.5

On the durability of the ESP plastic, the more stable of my full weight Hades faded out and hit the concrete right under a basket on a drive (tremendous park job), but at a big cost. It took a solid chunk out of the rim. I was quite surprised, honestly. I haven't seen anything similar out of premium plastics with the exception of some of my lighter weight Star discs that have a lot of air bubbles in the rim. My ESP Zone and ESP Thrasher seem to be holding up extremely well over many concrete and tree hits, though.

Based on my experiences, I probably wouldn't bag the Hades, as my Destiny consistently outflies the Hades on tailwind shots, and my ESP Thrasher and lightweight Goldline Ballista Pro are just way straighter and more consistent on slight headwind conditions. Off topic, but if anybody wants to try a slightly flippy Distance Bomber, give a lightweight Goldline Ballista Pro a try. I get as much distance out of this with a straight flight and fade as my understable discs that fully S out in their flight, and there's so much unlocked potential yet in it. It's extremely fun.


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Old 06-02-2020, 06:19 PM
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Got mine out today. I throw 300' give our take 20'. Flat top that feels good, however the rim feels very very hard to me. I like gummy drivers so take that with salt. Flies similar to my Gstar Wraith. Glide is good but nothing special. I need to anhyzer it to get a good flight out of it at my power level. I traditionally dislike drivers with a high turn and a high fade number. Too much anny and they can't fight out of it, not enough and they fade out early. Did see that happen with the Hades. One flex into a head wind stayed anny to the ground. Another into a lesser headwind didn't really flip much and faded out hard. Discs like this it feels like there is a very precise line you have to balance, little left or a little right, little too much power or not enough and the disc is going to magnify the mistake. I suspect if I had the power to hyzerflip it the results would be much more consistent. I will play with it some more and report back if my opinion changes but I expect to continue to lean on my Thunderbird for flex drives and my CD2 for hyzerflip drives, they go just as far as this did for me but more predictably.
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