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Old 08-08-2020, 12:11 AM
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All I see is the same swing. Off the Backside Behind the Front Side. Shift From Behind You!




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Old 08-08-2020, 12:39 AM
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Their backswings are like mirror images of each other.

Simon moving balanced more leftward and swinging more Inside-Out.

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GG moving balanced more rightward and swinging more Outside-In.

Note how they are moving away from each other V.

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Old 08-08-2020, 01:20 AM
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Right shoulder is swung from left shoulder centered over right ankle.

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Old 08-11-2020, 09:53 AM
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Beautiful.

GGs throw seems easier to aim. Do you think the use of gravity in GGs swing makes it more efficient?

Do we know for sure who is the further thrower? My brother-in-law caddied for Garret a few weeks ago and said he was tiny. I'd say his form has more capability for power but I think Simon has more distance. Could be the lankiness/height.

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Beautiful.

GGs throw seems easier to aim. Do you think the use of gravity in GGs swing makes it more efficient?
Absent some other info, shouldn't we just assume that GG is throwing on more of a hyzer angle? Lower arm mid swing, higher arm in follow through = more hyzer. The brief look we get of the discs on flight seems to confirm that to my eye.
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Old 08-11-2020, 11:18 AM
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Absent some other info, shouldn't we just assume that GG is throwing on more of a hyzer angle? Lower arm mid swing, higher arm in follow through = more hyzer. The brief look we get of the discs on flight seems to confirm that to my eye.
I'm mostly talking about before what's happening in these gifs. Simon has a more horizontal motion and GG goes very vertical, almost completely straightening his body during the x-step. They're both doing something very similar, but my theory is that GG takes more advantage of gravity and weight and Simon takes advantage of his build and momentum.

Obviously both are very effective. I like the look of Simon's throw a lot better and I'm guessing he can throw on an anhyzer angle more easily, but I have a hunch that GG gets a bit more efficiency.

Simon, however, could be getting just as much power/efficiency and his body hides it a bit better.

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GG's footwork is a bit different from Simon's. You'll notice that at one point, Garrett's feet are both off the ground because of his little hop. Where as Simon's step and slower and more calculated. He even hangs his front foot for a split moment before bringing it forward and planting it.
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GG's footwork is a bit different from Simon's. You'll notice that at one point, Garrett's feet are both off the ground because of his little hop. Where as Simon's step and slower and more calculated. He even hangs his front foot for a split moment before bringing it forward and planting it.
Footwork is the same during the actual swing.

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One thing I've noticed is that GG does prefer to release on a hyzer, while Simon seems more comfortable throwing on all angles, especially a slight anhyzer.
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One thing I've noticed is that GG does prefer to release on a hyzer, while Simon seems more comfortable throwing on all angles, especially a slight anhyzer.
This is getting more into 2 basic different golfing philosophies/strategies rather than mechanical swing differences. They are not mutually exclusive either, I think most disc golfers employ a combination, but they have their tendencies or preferences. Simon tends to prefer overstable discs while GG prefers understable discs.

1. Same disc and change your body/balance work the angle.

2. Same body/balance and change disc to work the angle - letting the disc do the work.

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