#41  
Old 09-18-2020, 02:20 PM
jakebake91 jakebake91 is offline
Double Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: West Central Wisconsin
Years Playing: 4.4
Courses Played: 7
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 1,737
Niced 1,243 Times in 622 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddyboots View Post
Would anyone with direct knowledge (injection molding experience) care to enlighten us with how a "nose spacer" could be used without impacting the thickness of the flightplate? Seems that this might be an urban myth in our small world. Seriously asking for an education from a qualified source, if available.
What geometry of the disc does this supposed "nose spacer" change? I've never given it much thought. Yes, obviously the nose....but in what way exactly? I've heard this term used, but never thought really how it affects the disc.

I've worked in a toolroom building injection molds. I *might* be able to shed some light on this.
Sponsored Links

Last edited by jakebake91; 09-18-2020 at 02:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 09-18-2020, 02:45 PM
oldmandiscer oldmandiscer is online now
Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 712
Niced 126 Times in 94 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebake91 View Post
What geometry of the disc does this supposed "nose spacer" change? I've never given it much thought. Yes, obviously the nose....but in what way exactly? I've heard this term used, but never thought really how it affects the disc.

I've worked in a toolroom building injection molds. I *might* be able to shed some light on this.
I've always imagined a very thin flat circular disc that is the width of the outer rim that goes in between the two mold pieces. This would make the depth of the inside rim deeper and make a taller disc. But then does the top have to have a spacer too the same width to keep the flight plate the same? I guess it might have too as well.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 09-18-2020, 03:35 PM
Tee1's Avatar
Tee1 Tee1 is offline
Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Virginia
Years Playing: 10.6
Courses Played: 163
Throwing Style: RHFH
Posts: 773
Niced 42 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Surge = Wraith
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 09-18-2020, 04:31 PM
seedlings's Avatar
seedlings seedlings is offline
Birdie Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Northwest Missouri
Posts: 281
Niced 95 Times in 62 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tee1 View Post
Surge = Wraith
Wraith: 1.4cm tall, 2.1cm rim width
Surge: 1.6cm tall, 2.2cm rim width

Niced: (1)
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 09-18-2020, 04:42 PM
TheOtherBill's Avatar
TheOtherBill TheOtherBill is offline
Double Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Years Playing: 14.5
Courses Played: 142
Posts: 1,226
Niced 337 Times in 160 Posts
Default

Did anyone save the old PDGA "Ask Dave D" forum thread? He said several times there is no such thing as 'spacers' for molding discs.

Niced: (2)
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 09-18-2020, 04:46 PM
Sydex Sydex is offline
Birdie Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anywhere, TX
Courses Played: 9
Posts: 434
Niced 163 Times in 112 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOtherBill View Post
Did anyone save the old PDGA "Ask Dave D" forum thread? He said several times there is no such thing as 'spacers' for molding discs.
So much dg lore and “common knowledge” is debunked by going through that thread. I think it’s still archived.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 09-18-2020, 04:47 PM
BB53641 BB53641 is offline
Bogey Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 84
Niced 20 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebake91 View Post
What geometry of the disc does this supposed "nose spacer" change? I've never given it much thought. Yes, obviously the nose....but in what way exactly? I've heard this term used, but never thought really how it affects the disc.
It makes the nose thicker/blunter. The Millennium Sentinel is supposedly a Cobra with this added, which turns a fairly straight disc into an overstable disc. The Orion LS is another example that is a Sidewinder with the thicker nose.

If it's not a nose spacer could it just be a different core piece used for the mold?

Last edited by BB53641; 09-18-2020 at 04:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 09-19-2020, 02:27 AM
Casey 1988 Casey 1988 is offline
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Pierre, South Dakota, USA
Years Playing: 17.3
Courses Played: 25
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 6,894
Niced 1,147 Times in 953 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BB53641 View Post
It makes the nose thicker/blunter. The Millennium Sentinel is supposedly a Cobra with this added, which turns a fairly straight disc into an overstable disc. The Orion LS is another example that is a Sidewinder with the thicker nose.

If it's not a nose spacer could it just be a different core piece used for the mold?
Could be not a spacer but the molds actually have 3 parts from Innova, top wing and nose part. This also could help explain why Innova compared to Discraft has had issues with the molds not being as consistent, Discraft has specified that some Discraft molds used for DGA have a spacer.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 09-19-2020, 01:30 PM
Moose33 Moose33 is online now
Salient/Yikun Groupie
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA
Years Playing: 8.8
Courses Played: 82
Throwing Style: RHFH
Posts: 5,843
Niced 1,493 Times in 951 Posts
Default

I had a fascinating conversation with a friend who makes molds for phone case companies(machine was 10 ft from us during poker game) and I have talked to him about making a mold for me, and I probably one day will do things when I have the money.

He was saying that depending on what type of machine/plastic/injection points you use it could be anywhere between 2-5 pieces to make a disc mold. So depending on the machinery a “spacer” if they do in fact exist may work on a mold from one company but the base mold for another might not allow it to work for another.

Niced: (2)
Reply With Quote
 

  #50  
Old 09-20-2020, 05:48 PM
Casey 1988 Casey 1988 is offline
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Pierre, South Dakota, USA
Years Playing: 17.3
Courses Played: 25
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 6,894
Niced 1,147 Times in 953 Posts
Default

Same mold Different model nobody has yet said, is the regular mold and 3 top discs from Innova.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
30+ discs - various brands Vic Rattlehead The Marketplace 14 08-30-2019 11:57 PM
Discs from many brands mirkky The Marketplace 30 06-20-2017 09:12 AM
Pred 101: PLH, Color, Old Mold vs. New Mold, Z, X, ESP and FLX Plastics SirRaph Discs 26 09-18-2013 10:57 PM
How many different brands are in your bag?? Moify Discs 155 04-30-2012 05:20 PM
2010 USDGC Roc*ODOC*Sanny Mold NOT Plus mold*Only 225 molded JustSayin' The Marketplace 25 12-03-2010 12:07 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.