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Old 10-25-2020, 09:24 AM
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... TDs are still free to designate OB (and hazards) anywhere they wish.
Exactly.

Anyone for a chess board fairway, 2m x 2m squares of alternating OB and IB?
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:05 AM
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The hazard might be a flat area on a hill.....the player can have good/safe footing there. Part of the OB seems to be a creek and the other OB might be steep slopes where footing is poor and a player might be injured. Or the OB may be swampy.

As for the other part of the question, as another person responded, hazards are inbounds as they are playable areas.
Your assumptions are correct, good sir! Played this course many times.

This hole is evil. The hazard is in fact a hill, kind of reclaimed thatchy-blackberry evil stuff.

The placement shots required here to bag a par are very unforgiving. What's lacking in the map is how narrow the drive is to get a decent look at the hill; then you need both power and luck to make your approach up the hill to get a 2nd placement shot. Then you'd be lucky to get view where you're in the circle without obstructions.

So. Many. Trees.

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Old 10-25-2020, 10:08 AM
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Omg why would you do this? I had a tourney this past weekend with a simpler hazard on one hole and you'd think some of these dg'ers brains were going to explode. This is an invitation for everyone to play it wrong.
If I'm playing casually with friends, we don't play the marked OB stakes on the course. It does make our brains want to explode. Then again, we are intermediate-for-life kind of guys.
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Old 10-25-2020, 11:47 AM
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Dont you need a pdga waiver by now for such special constructions?

We had to remove our inverse island a few years ago because we did not get a waiver for it any more. I can not imagine how such an abomination would get pdga approval.
What is an inverse island?
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Old 10-25-2020, 11:55 AM
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Omg why would you do this? I had a tourney this past weekend with a simpler hazard on one hole and you'd think some of these dg'ers brains were going to explode. This is an invitation for everyone to play it wrong.
Im confused. Why would anyone play this wrong? Not arguing, just inexperienced.

Looks straight to get past mando. Then Throw at green. After mando cleared, OB rules or hazard rules apply on approach to green.

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Old 10-25-2020, 02:11 PM
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Exactly.

Anyone for a chess board fairway, 2m x 2m squares of alternating OB and IB?
Interestingly, that gives a 60% chance of landing in-bounds.

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Old 10-25-2020, 03:34 PM
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Hah! I was reading the upcoming rule changes and spotted an excellent update to the Hazards rule.

Currently a disc must be completely surrounded by OB to be OB. But it must also be completely surrounded by a Hazard Area for it to be in a Hazard. Which means in my OP if a disc landed on the boundary between OB and Hazard - then it would be neither OB nor Hazard!

For anyone who plays this course - you have just over two months to try and land your discs on the line for a free ride too the top.

New rule coming Jan 21:

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A disc is in a hazard if its position is clearly and completely surrounded by the hazard or by a combination of the hazard and an out-of-bounds area.
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Actually I have it as about 61.57% to 63.45% depending on the size of the disc.

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