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First there was "strong brace." Now there's "floaty brace."

It's like playing Mad Libs:

_______ brace is the next step in the throwing sequence.
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There's times watching McBeth throw where his brace appears kind of floaty. There isn't really a pivot area the brace leg is pivoting on at times- kind of floats around.

The bottom line is there is always a brace moment where it is strong enough to throw the disc well. It's just that it's not always as strong in player to player and from throw to throw.
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Old 10-26-2020, 05:38 AM
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My thought is more along the lines of thinking a rope is attached to the backside of you front shoulder and its coiled around a giant top in back of your rear leg and you have to rotate your body to pull that rope to get the top to spin.

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well that just explains it perfectly. you have to rotate your body... so that your rear leg pivots and rotates... so that your shoulders can rotate.

you've outdone yourself!
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Old 10-27-2020, 08:37 PM
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My thought is more along the lines of thinking a rope is attached to the backside of you front shoulder and its coiled around a giant top in back of your rear leg and you have to rotate your body to pull that rope to get the top to spin.
In this video Mike Austin demonstrates with a rope that the “swing is initiated by a coordinated action of the body, arms, hands, legs, and feet...”

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Yes, so much of what he said is true. The whole dynamic weight shift that naturally turns the hips during that shift. No shift then turn, just shift and turn at the same time.
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No shift then turn, just shift and turn at the same time.
My lizard brain can't think about both at same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CSHqnYNijw#t=1m30s
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My lizard brain can't think about both at same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CSHqnYNijw#t=1m30s
Just need to condition those muscles so you can resists that 30-40 pounds of arm swinging in front you. Super easy, super effortless and very healthy. You are absolutely not going to injure your back, knee, shoulder and elbow doing that.

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incase there are more RoDeos out there I would advice against this. You are absolutely going to injure your back, knee, shoulder and elbow.

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I never made up a drill. A drill is something you do to get better at something. I was showing how the lateral shift by itself doesn't create rotation.
But you did create rotation. You were using all your might to resist rotation.


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My thought is more along the lines of thinking a rope is attached to the backside of you front shoulder and its coiled around a giant top in back of your rear leg and you have to rotate your body to pull that rope to get the top to spin.
Not sure I follow. You spin a top by pulling in straight line. Wouldn't just moving the shoulder away from the hip spin it?
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Throwing is Newtonian physics. Converting momentum to force.

Following this thread has been very enlightening.

The body moves linearly as possible to a hard stop and the throwing motion is the conversion of the bodies MO to a force applied to the disc. The more efficient that conversion the more force and ideally accurate distance.

It’s somewhat like a car crash dummy test.

Hips need to be shifted forward or else half the mass in the MO will transfer energy to the foot/ground. The rotation of the upper body. Is intended to increase the distance that the disk has to accelerate and thus improve energy transfer.

The back leg kick is a counter balance to the upper body shift.
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My lizard brain can't think about both at same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CSHqnYNijw#t=1m30s
That its a dynamic weight shift and hip turn?
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